Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

At least part of the reason that the omicron variants seem milder is the higher levels of vax and natural immunity in the community. There were still a lot of people that died of Covid (or with Covid) during that time period.

approaching 70 I would definitely get it. I already got mine and I’m less than 60. What’s the harm? Might have waited a bit for the 4th but decided to get it before visiting my parents.

 

There is a reason we do not get reporting.

185 of 204 deaths in British Columbia were fully vaccinated April 3 to April 30. These vaccines are not effective against omicron and the stealth variant. Believe they are if you wish. And booster away if you wish. But after the government coerced people to take new drugs and we still do not have a second generation that might actually provide a small therapeutic response if designed closer to the current variants speaks volumes.

We should continue to ask questions and push to hold the small group of leaders who pushed terrible policy accountable.

B.C.'s new method of counting COVID-19 deaths may be obscuring benefit of vaccination

 

You obviously didn’t read this link, as it clearly runs counter to your deranged agenda.

 

or do you wait for the 'modified booster' that is might work better against the omicron?

 

Please tell me you didn't read the site. Please. You produced data from a site that outright states that the data are unreliable. If you actually read that and are reporting it as such, it's time to turn in your UF diploma.

 

i think they made and tested a booster for omicron and it didn’t work any better. Maybe it was in animals.

Omicron-targeted vaccines do no better than original jabs in early tests

Modified boosters may not be ready until fall.

Pfizer Booster Tailored To Omicron Variants Could Be Available This Fall

 

"How many lives would have been saved if that slump in vaccine demand had never happened? To answer that question, Brown and Microsoft researchers calculated the peak vaccination rate for each state, and then imagined that rate continued until all adults in the state were fully vaccinated.

The total for the country is stark: Many of the nearly 1 million COVID deaths took place in 2020 before the vaccines were available. But of the more than 641,000 people who died after vaccines were available, half of those deaths could have been averted – 318,981 – had every eligible adult gotten vaccinated. And those numbers are even more striking in certain states where more than half of deaths could have been avoided."

This is how many lives could have been saved with COVID vaccinations in each state

 

There are several reasons why you get a lot wrong about covid; one of them is in your persistent use of categoricals, e.g. "not effective" "doesn't work" etc. that signifies you think in all/nothing, no gray.

Against the spread with omicron, yes, effectiveness decreased markedly as it was often able to elude vaccine protections. Yet, vaccines still decreased the likelihood of infection, with unvaxxed still having over a 2:1 infection rate at the height of omicron. Prevention against death waned a bit too, mainly with vaccines waning, yet vaccine protection remained robust against death with unvaxxed dying at 9x the rate of vaxxed.

I get that one of the hardest things to do is admit to oneself when we're wrong (it's also one of the most honest). It's called resistance to change. You seem to me to resist because you became enamored with the GBD. Sadly, it's continuing to lead you to some bad conclusions because you're still not thinking clearly.

Anyway, there were valid reasons for health officials to not adopt the GBD's recommendations. For one, doing so would have unacceptably increased the number of people dying to achieve herd immunity naturally. Plus there was no good way to isolate only the most vulnerable--many of whom work. NTM the constitution

 

The evidence is clear that the vaccines are very effective in reducing serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths due to Covid. Many deniers just refuse to accept this reality, while other deniers refuse to accept the vaccines' effectiveness in reducing serious illness, because the vaccines are less effective in reducing transmission. Yes, you can get Covid even if you're vaccinated. Maybe, they get confused sometimes in distinguishing between these two different aspects of the vaccines' effectiveness.

 

If pandemic spread of a highly infectious & deadly virus were only about healthy people, your argument would have merit. This is yet another point where you seem to misconstrue how pandemic spread of disease causes unnecessary & excess sickness and death, not only among the less healthy/most vulnerable.

People losing their jobs because they didn't want to do something for the benefit of the greater good and become much less of a risk to others (and for themselves) has been their choice. But it strikes me as curious that you have such an issue with it--after all, how do we protect the most vulnerable without widespread vaccination of everyone, healthy & otherwise? We can't. This is what keeps eluding your thinking.

 

You're giving them way too much credit. They're not missing the distinction; they have heels dug into the dirt and aren't willing to seek valid information.

 

No. They do like all the media outlets do and find excuses for what the data currently says…

 

The site makes excuses for the data. I would not listen to the site at all. I posted it because they provide the hard data with a link to it. Hard to find that for a reason. Then they try to make an excuse for the hard data.

 

1st case in our department since the down turn earlier this year. Young guy in his 20s. Looked like crap when he came in for the oncoming shift. Said his girlfriend likely had strep throat.Threw him an N95 and told him to hang out outside while checking the engine until his crew comes. Notified his crew and the battalion chief. They sent him home and made him get covid tested. Came back positive. I was a bit surprised it was covid. Waiting to see how this goes. I've seen enough guys hitbhard with it to know I don't want it.

 

I have said a thousand times that it was evil to rob people of their jobs, and calling that out is valid. The false misrepresentation of the vaccines effectiveness is not.

 

Whatever would those experts do without poster to interpret their data correctly for them? SMH

 

I know they aren't as effective but some (you?)have been ripping the shot since day one. And yes, Once most folks are vaccinated then most deaths will be from vaccinated people. The key thing is that the deaths are much LOWER than they would have been without it. The data has shown that all along.

 

Two Pfizer shots then a booster. There’s a second booster available. Curious if it’s necessary. I figured if covid doesn’t eventually go away we may end up with a shot similar to a flu shot.

I’m not sure if I need a second booster with covid mutating into what many (not me) describe as a cold or bad cold?

Just curious what people are hearing or reading about the mutations.

 

Thanks.