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Fifth circuit gonna fifth circuit (Texas free speech decision)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, May 12, 2022.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    One side, one point of view is called propaganda...
     
  2. gator_lawyer

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    It's the opposite, Rick. Twitter owes you no right to free speech. It's not the government. But the government telling Twitter what speech it must host violates Twitter's free speech rights.
     
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  3. pkaib01

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    that argument is beyond his comprehension. sadly
     
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  4. oragator1

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    free speech applies to government intervention, not private business. The percent of Americans who seem to understand this is pathetically low.

    Telling a business who they have to do business with or how to run their business is the least Republican thing Imaginable. And yet now it’s being cheered. I am sure republicans now support forcing that Baker to make that gay wedding cake right?
     
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  5. Spurffelbow833

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    The proper role of government in this situation is to break up Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. They're all monopolies.
     
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  6. rivergator

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    First of all, uncensored content is not necessarily in the common interest.
     
  7. rivergator

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    It is really a shame that some of those who claim the loudest to be supporting the Constitution have no clue what it says or means.
    Ever since I've been on Too Hot, we've had people claiming that the First Amendment means you can't be fired or suffer any consequences for what you say.
    It's really a shame.
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    If you censor me, I'm suing you for a violation of my HIPPA rights!
     
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  9. rivergator

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    And you're a lawyer, too! Crap
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    I don’t think a social media platform used daily by less than 12% of the US population is necessarily a monopoly.

    FaceBook/IG/YT on the other hand.

    Twitter mDAU in the United States 2021 | Statista
     
  11. GatorNorth

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    while I don’t like censorship even by private platforms, their doing so has absolutely nothing to do with the first amendment.

    And for the governor to say out loud his law is intended to protect conservative speech (and not all speech) is probably a clear violation of the 1A to begin with.
     
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  12. Gatorrick22

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    Are they publishers?

    The judge probably said that becasue it's only conservative speech that is being discriminated against.
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    That whole 230... Act is about protecting free speech, not picking and choosing free speech. Gays have free speech rights rights... many groups do, so do Republicans.

    It's going to be hard to get the other countries that want the NWO to recognize our First Amendment Rights to free speech and our CDA 230 internet/blogger protection rights.
     
  15. PerSeGator

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    People don’t necessarily have to register as a user with Twitter to use the service. You don’t even need to go onto the website, since tweets can be embedded and shared across the internet and through other media. Most everyone are exposed to tweets at one level or another.

    But I don’t really think any of them fit the monopoly model. Even if most everyone in the country used one platform, they also use others. Competitors can and do spring up daily, and in terms of the basic function of social media (communicating with others) there are thousands of available options. More than any other time in human history.

    Although certain services may be more popular than others, I don’t see how that makes them monopolies in any tue sense.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Think about what you just said and why it is nonsensical. How could you have three separate MONOpolies in the same industry at the same time? And that is before we get to all of the other competition (Snapchat, TikTok, Reddit, Pinterest, etc. etc. etc.). But sure, if not for all that competition, they would be monopolies.
     
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  17. l_boy

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    So I guess we want all social media to look like 4 Chan. That should be interesting.
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    Nope 4chan doesn't exist. Or they are a fourth monopolist. I am not really sure.
     
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  19. jjgator55

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    When has conservative speech ever been canceled or censored Mr. Abbott? Conservative speech isn’t offensive. MAGA speech is another story.
     
  20. pkaib01

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    Despite the outrage induced profanity, this article is a nice summation of this law.

    Just How Incredibly (messed) Up Is Texas’ Social Media Content Moderation Law?

    "I haven’t even gotten to the bit that says that you can’t “censor” based on geographic location. That portion can basically be read to be forcing social media companies to stay in Texas. Because if you block all of your Texas users, they can all sue you, claiming that you’re “censoring” them based on their geographic location.

    So, yeah, here you have the “free market” GOP passing a law that effectively says that social media companies (1) have to operate in Texas and (2) have to be sued over every moderation decision they make, even if it’s in response to clear policy violations."

    This law requires twitter, et al, to operate in Texas. I can't imagine how this survives a potential en banc hearing or SCOTUS.
     
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