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Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, May 2, 2022.

  1. gatorchamps960608

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    Tim's Mom was fortunate enough to have had a CHOICE to bring him to term knowing what the risks were to her life.
     
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  2. duchen

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    This killed the secret adulterer woman and the man who committed adultery with her. The Talmud, which codified the unrecorded oral history, contains the details of that. I will post a few commentaries from Jewish orthodox links.
    Sotah - aish.com.
    https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/4067054/jewish/Sotah-The-Biblical-Wayward-Wife.htm
     
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  4. DoubleDown11

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    Using Tim Tebow as some sort of arbiter for this discussion is disgusting and deranged.
     
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  5. duchen

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    It is amazing the public ignorance on subjects. I had a discussion yesterday with two people who are firmly convinced that Roe requires late term abortions and think that this draft opinion eliminates late term (and all) abortions.
     
  6. 1990Gator

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    ShutdownDC comment:

    The group claims the high fences outside the Supreme Court makes it necessary to stage a protest outside Alito's home:

    "The evening of Monday, May 9, we will hold a vigil for all these rights that Alito is threatening to take away," the website read. "Because it's been impossible to reach him at the Supreme Court (especially now with the enormous fences), we will do it at his home.

    So walls do work?
     
  7. gogator7444

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    Good thread

     
  8. gogator7444

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    Yes they do. They're great for privacy, too. Because of course the Justices are entitled to their privacy in a public building. Privacy is a very...important...thing...

    Oh wait.

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  9. g8rjd

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    More leaks, openly identified as from the conservatives.

     
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  10. tampagtr

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    No doubt the whole process has been transparent to other high officials in the movement, every draft, every exchange, etc.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    A wall around a single building that's easily defensible? Yes, a wall can work. 2000 miles of wall that goes through several terrains including desert, rivers, and mountains that are accessible only on foot? Not so much.
     
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  12. danmann65

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    Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. If a single sperm is wasted, God becomes quite irate.
     
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  13. luvtruthg8r

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    Your religious views and those of others should play no part in abortion law-making and abortion judicial processes and decisions EXCEPT to illustrate that mainstream religions have differing views on the subject, which is why outlawing abortion abridges the rights of members of religions that do not prohibit abortions.

    Most of your anti-abortion arguments center around your religious views, and that supports my point, even though I'm sure it was unintentional on your part.

    Stop trying to make your religious views, and the religious views of other like-minded individuals, the controlling authority relative to how society deals with governmental issues. The rest of us will live by your religious views when and if WE decide to do so, and NOT due to the desires of you and others who think like you, nor due to government regulation.
     
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  14. tampagtr

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    The wall was always more metaphorical and legal than it was physical. It was a statement that the ongoing seemingly inevitable demographic change could in fact be thwarted through sufficient will, and that America had to be returned to her so-called greatness, to some vision of prelapsarian goodness, either real or imagined.
     
  15. gogator7444

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    Just when you thought it couldn't get more ridiculous. Ok anti abortion folks. "If you don't want a baby use protection". They're banning contraceptives. "Well obviously if it causes an abortion or affects the fetus it's wrong. Use a condom."



    So....spin away.
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    BTW, I will just say that I have been right all along about Roberts. One thing you can say for the five others is at least they're honest about what they're doing.
     
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  17. tampagtr

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    He’s not the only one. Most talk about in terms of overruling Griswold as well, knowing the public will not understand what that means. Marsha Blackburn has said only married couples should be able to legally access contraception, though she tries to be coy about it. A lot going on here. Don’t know how far it goes, but there is certainly some momentum to greatly circumscribe contraception access, at a minimum
     
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  18. gogator7444

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    It's literally about control and "morals". Their goal is to have the US turn back the clock 200 years where women have no rights, need to be chaperoned, marriages need to be arranged, only legitimate children can be acknowledged, and minorities are 3/5 of a person & working the fields.
     
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    This hypothesis fits the observed behavior.
     
  20. citygator

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    If you are forced to use your body to allow a fetus become a human why can’t you be forced to donate a kidney to save an already born human? Or any other procedure that saves a life? Blood donations can become mandatory.

    Now that you have no control over your body for the good of others, there is so much good your body can do.
     
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