War in Ukraine

Translation please?

 

Yes I watched the video.

Even if this is a small mortar what you don't see is damage from fragmentation to surrounding areas.

 

Well, here we are....

What would you propose as a plausible, realistic end to this mess?

I'm looking for one that preferably doesn't end up with a desperate, humiliated Putin left with nothing but the literal nuclear option to obscure his humiliation...

 

We see how well that turned out.

 

Water under the bridge, but Truman/Ike should have followed Patton's advice with respect to the Russians. That guy always spoke his mind, to his detriment, but no one can question his military acumen. Stalin was in cahoots with Hitler in starting the damn war! We should have saved an atomic bomb for Moscow.

 

I like your solution, just pointing out that Russian promises carry no credibility

 

Concerning the current cluster f#$@ in Ukraine, USA/EU needs to keep supporting democracy. As history has shown every time, appeasement never works with despots. The worst part is that Ukraine has always been shafted throughout their history. The Poles, the Tartars, the Cassocks, the Russians, the Germans, the Russian's before, during and after WWII and now Russia again.

 

The sheer brilliance of sending heavy weapons with no fuel or transportation to get them to the frontlines.

Javelins are likely getting through. But it’s Ukrainian pin pricks vs. Russian hammer blows.

 

Well of course that arrangement would work for “the free world”. It’s basically Russia surrendering to Ukraine and walking out of this folly with far less than they started with. Which is why craven authoritarian dictators like Putin would never agree unless absolutely forced to, i.e if the Ukrainians started rapidly reclaiming territories and mopping up remaining Russians.

Russia may be on the back foot and/or whatever progress they make is a slog devastating to any human life, but there’s no indication Putin is backing down any time soon. He’ll be content to keep raining down bombs and sending conscripts to die, while tightly controlling the domestic population with lies - never letting them actually know what is going on. I’m not even sure how he backs off with the losses they’ve already taken, yet… how can he stay in power if he backs off after all this? Unless Putin agrees to go into exile or… has a little surprise accident making him disappear, i’m worried a lashing out with more unconventional warfare is inevitable in an attempt to turn the tide in his favor.

 

The point was a discussion about understanding the poster's ideas of right or wrong. I've yet to get that understanding.

 

You apparently missed this earlier tweet:
Now those are Ukrainian estimates, so let’s go ahead and cut them all in half. If you consider the loss of 10,000 of your soldiers in two months as “pin pricks,” then maybe war isn’t your game.

 

Yes, Patton wanted to extend WWII and march on Moscow. After years of war, the sentiment was enough was enough. Besides, look at the track record of armies who have tried invading Russia (see Napoleon and Hitler). There is also that notion of unintended consequences, the likes of which obviously we will never know. This is not a game of Risk.

 

Russian losses in Ukraine in little over two months have most likely Soviet losses in Afghanistan in 10 Years.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-impossible-position-win-26877372

 

Those numbers are staggering.

 

It's called spin. It's a hard sale, but the sale needs to be made, the deal closed. For all Putin's provocations, rational heads need to prevail, and work this thing to a smooth landing.

6,000 nuclear war heads waiting in the wings ready to turn our little planet into Mercury--as an easy out and release valve to alleviate the burning sting of humiliating defeat...is plenty of motivation. Beyond that, Russia is a stabilizing force when she's strong. A debilitated Russia could be real problematic, especially with that nuclear arsenal. Do you think the world will be better off with a splintered Russia comprised of several autonomous states, each with like 1,000 nukes???

I think the point has been made--Russia is crippled.

We don't need to turn Russia into a nuclear Weimar Republic, or something even more chaotic and disorganized.