Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

There are literally billions of people who can take a newborn and nurture it to the next stage of life. But rewind 6 months, and there is literally only one, single person who has the ability to nurture the fetus to the next stage of life. And that's the pregnant woman. Therein lies the difference. Sure, you can sign an adoption agreement at this stage, but the adopting parents can't take care of the fetus until it is born.

 

This leak certainly has taken the focus off of Desantis, don't say gay and Disney.
Coincidence?

 

Am I? Is it an extreme view? Yes it is and while I don't think that stage will be reached, it wouldn't shock me.

You know me better than that. But I see where more & more restrictions, penalties, etc get thrown towards those that don't fit the ideal "Christian" folks want. Look at some of the laws being passed. So if you want extremists look around at those folks pushing their beliefs on others, and not just on this issue.

 

And that's a perfectly reasonable option & what's more there should be ways to reduce the fees/adoption costs.

Things like that would help women make better choices.

Emphasis on the word CHOICES.

 

Good point. I know my daughter is already looking at this and narrowing down where she'd like to live. You're going to see a lot of young, educated, professional women turning down positions in certain states. I know some companies with offices in Texas are helping but now Texas is trying to curb that.

 

I've also read that Sir Matthew Hale took the position that a man could not be guilty of raping his wife. There is some speculation out there that references to Hale may be omitted from the final opinion.

 

There are way too many that still hold that view, by the way.

 

Right on cue, you can't make a coherent legal argument without a disingenuous misrepresentative slight of hand meant to paint me as bigoted.

 

Trump's lawyer said Trump could not be guilty of spousal rape because it wasn't a thing. I was shocked to find out, in New York at least, that was true until 1984. That's one problem I have with so much reliance upon history and tradition.

People v. Liberta

 

Just busting your chops a little IQ. You know your good with me. #KellyThreadLegend

 

Of course. But the fetus can still be for all intents and purposes just as much an adoption as a post birth adoption. Thats all I was saying.

 

They will codify that into law too. Watch.

 

My coherent legal argument is the plain text of the Fourteenth Amendment. I didn't paint you as a bigot. I accurately stated your argument. Am I wrong? Are you saying that the 14th Amendment entitles gay people to the same rights as the rest of us?

 

This is what I responded to: "I really don't have an axe to grind on Roe v Wade, but this is easily solved by giving up the baby for adoption."

Adoption doesn't resolve the bodily autonomy issue.

 

Alito's entire argument against Roe is that it's not a right deeply rooted in our history and tradition. Guess what he said in his dissent in Obergefell?

 

It won't. Just Libs freaking out.