Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

Before we lose control this could be a gift for Democrats. If this reporting is accurate the ruling returns things to pre-Roe where it was up to individual states. We’ll call them freedom states and slave states. With over 70% of the people against this ruling it will no doubt bring out a lot of liberal and progressive voters who would have stayed home otherwise. It’s naive for anyone to think the timing couldn’t be worse for republicans.

To bolster that, and if democrats message it properly using the right messengers, they could instill the fear of banning all forms of birth control to include hysterectomies, tubal ligations, vasectomies, interracial marriage, same sex marriage, a woman’s right to vote, restricting voting to only property owners, etc. becomes a real possibility and could scare enough people to turn some red states blue.

Let’s first see if this reporting is accurate first.

 

Nah, this means people will actually expect the Democrats to do something and deliver for their voters, but they don't like doing things or servicing their voters. Not only that, they loathe activists controlling the message, which will be more the case when abortion is illegal in half the country. Will probably help fundraising though. They were happy to fundraise off abortion and do nothing for decades as it was, even in states where they could have easily codified abortion rights.

 

If the public voted on things as you suggest literally everything the Democrats want would be approved. To suggest that Democrats would call it extremist to allow people to vote is ridiculous considering it’s the republicans passing laws restricting the right for people to vote.

 

If the reporting is accurate then all bets are off IF as I said democrats use the right messaging with the right messenger.

 

Sincerely,
Unborn Humans

 

For decades, my whole life basically, liberals have mostly abandoned the idea that power can be used to do things, or that politics are useful means to wield power. Their faith in institutions and the market has led to a sort of complacency that good people in power will call balls and strikes or administer neutrally. Or that the market will lead to just outcomes and discipline people in the absence of regulation or law. Just a lot of complacency during a long, slow rolling crisis. And at this moment, the senior leadership of the party is quite literally senior, positively geriatric. Totally unequipped for the era we are entering.

 

That might be the next constitutional challenge. Even with this court full of hacks I'm not sure that There's a legitimate state interest in putting a mothers life at risk for the benefit of a yet unborn child

 

It doesnt matter. On this topic mature responses are met with equal vitriol.

Any reasonable life based argument is shot down with the same sad lazy buzzwords.

Point out that 98% +/- pregnancy are preventable via choice is always shot down with ridicule.

Point out the unique human being that exists very early on is always shot down with the "blob of cells" nonsense.

Abortion should only exist in cases of mothers wellbeing.

Outside of that it is a tragic scar on the American story

 

This is an interesting theory:

 

We have a Supreme Court that is as political is any other institution led by Republicans who are as power hungry as the rest of the politicians. The institution is hurtling towards its end.

 

Unless it’s the vaccine right?

 

Asked and answered. Don't waste my time.

 

Every civil right gain? I cal bs

 

Because you are the judge and jury of what is my body my choice ?

 

Really? Maybe it’s time the country should split

 

70% I would question that it’s more like 50 /50 that is why this is coming to light now

 

Yep but it will be great for the unborn

 

Name some gain in the last 40 years Court wise that couldn’t be impacted by the way this decision is currently being framed? Gay rights, contraceptive rights, abortion rights all would be on the chopping block. And it was purposely written that way, so that’s the goal. Put the power to the states, and given the current makeup of many state legislatures, they are going to dive head first into that pool. And even if something like contraception isn’t done at the state level initially, some localities will 100 percent do it and dare a state legislature like Mississippi or Alabama to say no. Which they will never do, so it will spread at county or city level, even if not formally sanctioned by states.

So yes, it’s coming.