NYT gets serious about Tucker Carlson

So that's a long way of saying you agree you are playing politics. Next time save everyone's time and just admit it. It's ok.

 

A hidden nugget in this story, from Tim Miller on Twitter:

“An organizational chart loaded into the company’s portal showed a controversial figure named Peter Brimelow — founder of nativist website VDare — reporting directly to Rupert Murdoch."

Some background:

Originally established in 1999 by Peter Brimelow, VDARE has provided a crucial bridge between the more mainstream anti-immigrant movement, including major players in the Republican Party, and the white nationalist fringe. Though the site has declared its mission as “inform[ing] the fight to keep America American,” its roster of white nationalist contributors throughout its two-plus decades online belies Brimelow’s attempts to paint the site as solely a haven for “civic nationalist” critiques of America’s system of immigration.

VDARE

 

No. The problem is that the NYT only writes this type of stuff about one side of the political spectrum. People like Reid are allowed to throw plenty of racial hand grenades unabated with no scrutiny from them or you. It’s just selective outrage.

 

Right wingers love posting ratings so much--what are Tucker's ratings compared to Joy's? What is Tucker's position in the right wing hierarchy of importance as compared to Joy's?

This is the typical right wing trope: Yeah, Trump says dumb stuff but so did some Dem Alderman in Chicago so the parties are the same.

 

The last time I checked, after I read an article about a surge in his viewership, he regularly speaks to, at best, 1 1/2% of the population. Approximately 1/5 of that small percentage are democrats looking for dirt. I have no idea what definition of "huge" you are using but I don't know of one where it would be appropriate.

Joy's hate is even less relevant.

LoTT subscriptions doubled when they doxxed her. The Babylon Bee now has almost twice the online traffic as The Onion. Tucker should send the NYT promotion fee when he negotiates his new contract.

 

Seeing as how I don’t watch either I don’t know or care about ratings and in fact ratings have nothing at all to do with anything I wrote. And I find it interesting and rather funny that now all of the sudden TV ratings matter to you.

Reid and Carlson are both prime time commentators on major TV networks in similar time slots. Comparisons are perfectly reasonable. That you find them inconvenient is a you problem.

 

That’s your and the NY Time’s opinion based on your own biases. I also hear liberals calling Ben Shapiro a Nazi and bigot when clearly that’s absurd. Forgive me if I don’t take you and the NY Times’ word for anything.

I can’t remember the last time I’ve watched cable TV news although I do catch lots of clips from different shows. I haven’t seen Carlson’s show in a long while either. I’m sure I disagree with some things he says and whole heartily agree with others. I actually have the intellectual capacity to differentiate what I agree with and what I don’t and believe that other people do too. Which is why I mentioned Reid. I trust people to independently determine what they believe otherwise I would be on here all the time gnashing my teeth talking about her like a lot of liberals do Carlson.

 

The common refrain is from Republican apologists is


- I didn’t read the article
- I don’t watch Tucker

Yet somehow in the vacuum of admitted ignorance they claim to have a superior more reasoned view on the subject.

The problem is admitting that Tucker is a cancer (same with Trump) is it makes Republicans seem worse, and their preferred narrative is Democratic wokeness is the primary evil of our time. Trust me, I have been called numerous less than flattering things by Democratic wokesters, and do think it is a problem, but in my mind they aren’t nearly the problem that Trump/Tucker/conspiracists/neo Authoritarians present. The wokesters threaten some of our institutions at some level, although beyond “elite” colleges and mainstream /social media it is effectively being managed through a backlash on the right and Democratic centrists. The Trump/Tucker clan and their complete divorce from reality threatens our very democracy. When you think everybody is out to get you, you are willing to do away with our very founding ideals and vote for somebody who you perceive is going to protect you.

With Trump muted via social media Tucker is hands down the most influential person on the right.

 

He doesn't threaten our democracy anymore than he wacko's from the left. Take this from someone who hates trump and doesn't like Tucker. They don't influence any of the people i talk to. It's no bigger influence than say the NYT's.

 

“Fox News and host Tucker Carlson look closely at minute-by-minute ratings that show there's an appetite among its audience for talking points embraced by white nationalists,”


Fox News and Tucker Carlson use 'minute-by-minute' ratings that show their audience loves 'white nationalism' talking points, report says

 

I appreciate that some on the left throw around words like racist too freely. But I have listened to and followed various Republicans/conservatives over the years (Rush Limbaugh, Michael Berry, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Hugh Hewitt and others), and I don't put them in the camp as Tucker. I occasionally read White Nationalist forums like stormfront. They generally like Tucker and think he's the best mainstream guy on their side. That doesn't mean he shares all of their views, of course, and I have no idea what is in Tucker's heart. But the fact that they like him as much as they do is consistent with the fact that Tucker's rhetoric very closely mirrors their rhetoric - not just about racial replacement theory but in how he speaks about authoritarian leaders, how he talks about men being under attack, etc.

 

So the guy who wrote this story for the NYT is a contributor for MSNBC??? LOL

 

He doesn't just hold "the correct views", he has a *badge and gun*, and he's not shy about using them.

Hell, he's bloody Barney Fife with em.

(later y'all...been nice posting on here)....

 

Tucker Carlson is incredibly talented at blending a dose of fact into dangerous recipients of inciteful paranoia that results in masterful manipulation. His talent, coupled with the manner in which he is packaged, makes him one of the most influentially dangerous influencers in our country.

 

I watch him because he's entertaining, informative, and likable.

...and it helps that I agree with a lot of his points too....

But I still watch SNL and the Today show, among many others, and read the NYT among many other sources, where I disagree with their politics way more than I agree with them (and frankly, I find Today, SNL and NYT... far more malevolent and threatening to the US than TC or anything on Fox News).

TBL, this is just a POS hit piece by NYT striving to latch on to TC's popularity to sell their own POS paper.

VERDICT= LOL!

 

Agree here. Some of Joy Reid’s comments on racial aspects of news events set my teeth on edge - a big reason we watch Jeopardy instead.

 

That combined with "they don't want you to know" or "they think they can fool us" are powerful tools to dupe the idiotic masses.