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DeSantis vs. Disney

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by dynogator, Apr 13, 2022.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Wait, what?
     
  2. archigator_96

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    Uff da!
     
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  3. Gator40

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    Florida wanted tourism in the state and Disney World was going to make that happen, so FL agreed to Reedy. Walt Disney himself lobbied the FL legislature and governor to pass Reedy Creek because he wanted EPCOT to originally be an actual planned city (he used his original plans for EPCOT to help get it passed), so he thought that Reedy would help him achieve that goal faster. His death brought EPCOT as a city to a hault though. The Florida Supreme Court upheld that Reedy did not violate the Florida Constitution.

    Disney has obviously used Reedy to help oversee and fund its projects without state or local taxes needed. This angry short-sightedness is going to hurt both sides.
     
  4. philnotfil

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    The real issues he is concentrating on right now all have to do with how to win the presidency. Somewhere in his first year as governor he realized he had a chance at the white house and shifted gears from helping Floridians to boosting his national brand. Kind of like how Muschamp ran the offense to make his defense look good (winning time of possession meant his defense had to be on the field for fewer plays, made their per game numbers look elite, didn't help the team win games, but sure made those defensive numbers pop).
     
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  5. jjgator55

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    All anyone has to do is look at Detroit, Pittsburg, and other rust belt cities to see where Florida is headed under republicans.
     
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  6. coleg

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    A quick spin and you're off to the races? Now you move the goalposts to social media companies.
    You posted in response to this retaliatory action by DeSantis " The Biden Admin...unconstitutional mandate .... " And your pretense was called out. You responded with Democrats and power grab. If you still choose to be intellectually dishonest and state you believe that a Public Health emergency mandate is less than or equivalent in validity to this blatant retaliatory punitive action then we're done and your credibility approaches zero.
     
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  7. Gator715

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  8. G8tas

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    Let me know when America's Governor decides to focus on being Florida's Governor
     
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  9. dynogator

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    This is a darn good question, PITBOSS.

    I assume the other problems of the day--health care, insurance, environment, housing, education, etc. have all been solved, seeing as how DeS is a fully committed Culture Warrior.
     
  10. Gator715

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    The policy I noted was about cracking down on social media companies for proliferating misinformation as defined by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. No moving of the goalposts.

    Valid in what sense? Valid as in which policy is better? That's a matter of opinion.

    Valid as in flexing your governmental muscles to disincentivize political speech you don't like? Yes, that can be said for the Klobuchar bill I noted and DeSantis attempting to revoke Disney's special tax privileges.

    Sorry, you don't get to use a crisis to justify every power grab. You don't get to cry false equivalency by characterizing everything you don't like as misinformation, disinformation, or hate speech. And if you do these things, you especially don't get to cry when the other side revokes special privileges that are meant to favor one corporation over all others because that corporation took policy stances the state didn't like.
     
  11. dynogator

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    Not there. Too cold. Disney's not going anywhere. DeS is just rattling his little culture warrior sword.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    Yeah, that's problematic. But it also didn't pass. DeSantis and Florida Republicans actually passed a social media bill that clearly violated the First Amendment even after being warned of that fact.
     
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  13. Gator715

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    Should this disqualify any supporters of bills such as this from your support in any campaign for Presidency?
     
  14. gator_lawyer

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    It would certainly be something I'd consider. If there was a pattern of this, I would have a very hard time supporting them in the primary. In the general, it would depend on who was on the other ticket.
     
  15. Gator715

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    Thank you.

    I hope we agree on one thing, the country would be much better off if the government would NOT take punitive measures against individuals or corporations for political speech they don't like.
     
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  16. jjgator55

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    If you think DeSantis isn’t going to sign this you’re sorely mistaken. If you don’t think top university professors and researchers are going to leave the state because he’s taking away their tenure you’re also sorely mistaken.
     
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  17. dangolegators

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    Does DeSantis's history of attempting to punish people and organizations who publicly disagree with him disqualify him for you?
     
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  18. dynogator

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    Oh, I'm sure he'll sign the bill. Then what?

    DeSantis wants to end tenure?

    If you think Disney's going to uproot and move to a location with an actual winter, you're mistaken.
     
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  20. coleg

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    You posted the Biden Admin mandate as an equivalency to retaliatory legislation not me. Now you equate a million lives lost in the same manner as a corporate rights issue that only came up for retaliation to free speech. You can die on that silly hill if you choose. I'd choose to cry for the lives lost, rather than a pathetic "a stick it to libs".
    Yes you did move the goalposts, but what with our last POTUS tweeting over 30,000 false or misleading tweets, one can see why you'd be sensitive about it.