Florida Dept. of Health no longer supports treatment of gender dysphoria for minors

And your credentials as an adolescent family therapist specializing in trans issues are...?

Point being, the experts that deal with these actual issues are pretty much all in agreement that puberty blockers are a positive in many cases. And prevents suicide attempts. Why should the state step in and tell these experts they are wrong? Why should you?

 

1. A tattoo isn't a medical treatment.
2. There are states where your 10 year old can get a tattoo with your consent. Alabama is one.

 

Puberty causes a lot of changes. A boy who feels like a girl may not feel the same way after puberty. How can someone know they have dysphoria before they have developed to the point where they even know what manhood or womanhood even feels like?

 

This feels exactly like when people used to pretend that kids couldn't really know if they were gay.

 

Did I miss a memo? How can kids know they're gay before their sexuality develops in puberty? Heck, it seems to me that a kid likely has a firmer grasp of their gender than their orientation pre-puberty.

 

It doesn't necessarily start as something that's sexual in nature.
https://kidshealth.org/ChildrensMercy/en/parents/sexual-orientation.html
Knowing one's sexual orientation — whether straight or gay — is often something that kids or teens recognize with little doubt from a very young age. Some gay teens say they had same-sex crushes in childhood, just as their heterosexual peers had opposite-sex crushes.

By middle school, as they enter adolescence, many gay teens already recognize their sexual orientation, whether or not they have revealed it to anyone else. Those who didn't realize they were gay at first often say that they always felt different from their peers, but didn't exactly know why.

Coming Out As Gay In Elementary School

 

Like sexual orientation, trans kids often know long before the onset of puberty. As this study shows, trans adults knew they were trans by the age of 7.

By the time a trans kid reaches puberty, there's a good chance they have been living as a trans kid for years. If the doctors think puberty blockers are a good idea, the kid's parents agree, and the kid is sure, what right should the state have to intervene? And who is anyone in this board to question the experiences of trans kids, or the medical experts who say puberty blockers can be a good idea, and reduces suicide?

 

1). who are you to say a tattoo isn’t “medical treatment?” Shouldn’t that be between a child and their parents?

2). Should a ten year old getting their face tattooed be illegal in your opinion?

 

1) If the medical consensus is that tattoos are medical treatments, I'll defer to their expertise.

2) Not with their parents' consent.

 

Why should you have any right to tell medical professionals, parents, and their children what treatments they can and can't access?

 

Objection. Nonresponsive. Sustained. Try reading my post again.

 

What does a consensus of medical professionals matter and who determines what constitutes a consensus? If I can find a quack doctor that tells me a face tattoo will solve my infant’s, let’s say, hypertension, should I be allowed to have my child’s face tattooed?

 

If your child and spouse consent, why not? But no, it wouldn't count as a legitimate medical treatment if the only basis you have is some quack. But it doesn't have to be. Why should the government be involved in that decision at all?

 

Lol @ “why not?” Ok bro. I’m sure that child would be thrilled with the permanent decision they made at ten years old they will have to live with the rest of their life.

You realize in MOST states it would be illegal to have your child’s face tattooed, even with everyone’s consent? Why do you think that is?

 

The child can get the tattoo removed.

Because states have too many laws. They love to control choices they have no business controlling.

 

And I’m sorry - skipping puberty to try out being a girl is not a “reversible decision.” It’s just not. Absolutely zero chance at anything approaching a normal life if you try to put the lid back on that can of worms.

 

There's absolutely zero chance at anything approaching a normal life for transgender people who can't utilize gender-affirming care before they turn 18. You continue to stubbornly double down on the idea that a person can't know they're transgender until adulthood, which is wrong. It saddens me that you are willing to support a policy that harms children simply because you don't get transgender people.

 

I’m sure some people know as children and are even more sure after they reach adulthood. Just as I am sure some regret the decisions they made to switch sexes as children. And I don’t care if that’s rare or common or not. You only get one chance. This is a decision an ADULT should make for themselves.

 

“There's absolutely zero chance at anything approaching a normal life for transgender people who can't utilize gender-affirming care before they turn 18.”

And this is absolute horse shit. How long has gender affirming care even existed? Are you suggesting no trans people have lived normal lives prior to surgery or hormone therapy?