Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

and florida is the only state whose numbers lag from day to day right? all states numbers for a given day get re-evaluated.

 

I could give a rats ass if a state is "red" or "blue". In fact, I don't give a rats ass that Colo crushed fla. I think you are projecting with all your weird Big Gov love. I don't think Governors are some godlike figures

 

just pointing out your ragging on desantis is biased, you dont want to refer to states with worse numbers because, wait for it, that would make desantis look better.

 

biased against what? Big Gov? You got me, I am biased against big gov. &, in this exchange, I was in fact ragging on YOU, not Chy-na Ron. "the sun came out today, isn't DeSantis great!"

 

And Public Health England has their January Covid deaths numbers out. Now they provide them 18-39/40-49/50-59/60-69/70-79/80-89/90+...

Covid Deaths in January fully vaccinated 81.8% (3686). Partially Vaccinated 3.5% (157). Unvaccinated 14.6% (665).

The UK (trouble getting England from our world data for some reason) had 72.1% of the population fully vaccinated on January 31, 2022.

 

it is obvious you do not like desantis as you focus only on florida, yet faced with the facts that many more states, many with democratic leaders are doing worse than florida you say you do not care about them, you just want to rag on florida, ie cannot see the forest for the trees.glad the sun came out today or all this would be moot. is desantis perfect,no, but again compared to so many other states he is ahead of the curve.

 

Nope, try again.

 

You brought up DeSantis using a 7 day avg death rate as evidence that he "must know something". Of course I don't like a freedom hating ass clown like DeSantis. Chy-na Ron was never meant as a term of endearment. You can have the last word. I'm not being generous; I am just not as good at burning you as you are.

 

DeSantis is the Gold Standard. They know it. If they want to live in covid misery...their choice.

 

like i said, people on here swear by the 7 day average. also, 10 states have a cases per million rate worse than florida, more facts you will not like.

 

That would mean that 39 states have a lower case per million rate, right? 39 is a lot larger than 10, is it not?

 

i was wrong, you can interpret numbers.

 

Not sure where you are getting your UK vaccination rates from, but 85.9% of the country is fully vaccinated. Kids under 5 cannot get vaccinated in the UK, and only at risk kids under 12 can get a jab. And it's not like kids 12-15 are lining up in the UK, with only 56% of them fully vaxxed at this point. Take away kids who aren't eligible for the vaccine from the total population, and you come up with over 90% of the UK adult population fully vaccinated.

When you adjust for population size, you come to the conclusion that yes, even in the UK, those triple vaccinated have a higher survival rate than double vaxxed, and even single dose have a better survival rate then unvaccinated. Just posting numbers without an actual denominator so we can calculate a per 100,000 rate is meaningless. It's nothing but a deception to convince people who do not understand statistics. I wish the practice would stop. It's as meaningless as George Carlin's sports scores bit. But at least that's funny, and there's nothing funny about COVID, or being unvaccinated.

As for weekly, 7-day average state numbers and country numbers, they are a good metric to see which way needles are pointing. But not necessarily a good number to compare state to state. COVID, like many other viruses, comes and goes in waves. And not all states are hit at the same time. So for state A, you could be comparing the tail end of a wave, whereas state B might be a few weeks behind, and the numbers look awful. Want to compare states, better to look at overall numbers rather than just a 7-day snap shot that may not truly show what happened in the past.

 

again, people swore on a stack of bibles 7 day averages were the best, now you want to move those goalposts because they do not show what you, and others want them to say.

 

7 day averages are great to look at to see which way the needle is moving within a state. No question there. But comparing state to state, the 7 day average has a serious limitation. And that's the fact that not every state is in the same phase of the pandemic at the same time.

Take an example of State A and State B, which have similar populations. State A had a peak a month ago of 100 deaths a day on a 7 day average, but are now on the other end of a wave, and is recording 20 deaths a day on average. State B is in the middle of its peak, and are currently recording 50 deaths a day on their average. Just looking at the 7 day average and you would argue A is doing better. But overall, A had a peak 2X that of B, and overall, B is doing better. It's just the 7 day snapshot for A captures a point in time after the peak, whereas the snapshot for B captures the picture right in the middle of the peak.

 

so you are saying all those who criticized me back in the day for using things other than 7 day averages were wrong?i always wanted to use month to month because 30 days was a time frame to encompass alot of things, but was told i was wrong.

 

Your link shows 49.39 million fully vaccinated in the UK as of March 28, 2022. There are 67.22 million people in the UK. That is 73.5% of the population that is fully vaccinated.

If you take the link below you can scroll on the graph to see the number on January 31, 2022. I just used their calculated percentage but it appears it could be exactly what I stated as they had 48 million and change on that date...

uk covid vaccination rate - Google Search

 

BIDEN kicked the viruses ass. Take a look at Shanghai. Virus running Wild there. That is the difference between vaccines that work and those that don’t. Like the Chinese vaccine. Give Trump credit for operation warp speed and Biden credit for the distribution system and getting people to take it.

 

I used this from the same link.

 

It really depends what you want to look for. If you want to see how a state is doing today, looking back at rolling 7-day averages is your best view. Just about every state has a weekend lag, and the 7-day average fixes this issue. The 7-day average will also tell you which way the needle is moving. I.e., is the state improving, getting worse, or standing pat.

A 30-day look likely has too much data to tell which way the needle is moving because of the wave nature of the virus. A 30 day average will look too low if you are on the start of a peak movement. Conversely, a 30-day average might look too high if you are 3 weeks away from the peak.

30-day rolling averages might be a better way to compare state to state, though again, it would be important to note when each state entered the next phase of the pandemic. Again, a state three weeks behind hitting the next wave is going to have much different metrics than a state that is on the backside of the wave.

There is no one, good metric that is the only metric anyone should look at. If it existed, no other metric would exist. It all depends on what you want to look for and compare.