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The Oscars are tonight; prepare for outrage

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Mar 27, 2022.

  1. mutz87

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    Judging on how other actors took it, no, I don't think it was staged.
    But I do think Smith's anger was largely contrived, covering up his shame for having laughed at the joke at first.
     
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  2. PITBOSS

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    I’m sure a lot of people, after hitting someone, can relate to the justification “love will make you do crazy things”. That are now behind bars.
     
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  3. antny1

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    Go to her defense absolutely. As someone stated they have made their lives public airing out their dirty laundry on multiple shows but that doesn't mean he can't stand up for her. Think we agree taking Chris to the side or even taking a shot at him verbally on the podium would have been much more appropriate. The older I get I just can't justify physical violence as a response to almost anything verbally. I just think as we age and mature we have to come to terms that we can't let people manipulate our actions with words. What's that saying? Something to the effect that letting people control your actions with words is giving them a remote control to you?
     
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  4. rump74

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    I'm genuinely trying to understand this view point but failing.
    JPS has a condition that causes hair loss, she shows up to the main annual event with a shaved head.
    Its besides the point, but I thought she looked good with a shaved head. A lot of women cant pull that look off as well as she does..... Just my opinion though
    I comprehend the joke being about her shaved head, not her condition.
    CR says he's looking forward to her starring in GI Jane 2 and that's way out of line?
     
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  5. mrhansduck

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    I guess I can see both sides about how offensive the joke was or was not. But is it comparable to hair loss from chemo? Cancer makes people sick and often kills. From what I understand, there are different types of alopecia, and I don't claim to understand it, but it seems to be mainly an issue of appearance? Hair loss/balding is pretty common. Obviously, it is a more serious/sensitive issue for women than for men, and probably for Black women than women generally. I'm not saying it's the same as jokes about bald guys or guys with bad hair pieces, but I'm also not sure it rises to the level of feeling like you need to hit a comedian for it either.
     
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  6. ATLGATORFAN

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    seemed phony to me. And that’s coming from a fan of both WS and CR
     
  7. cocodrilo

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    Did the slap even touch him? It reminded me of the invisible punch that Ali "knocked out" Sonny Liston with. (For those too young to remember, Liston threw the fight.)
     
  8. g8rjd

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    Theoretically, no. The government could proceed with the recording and subpoena Rock to testify anyway.

    Practically, yes. Prosecutors generally don’t waste their time with simple battery cases with an uncooperative victim with the possible exception of domestic battery (and even then usually only when it is a serial domestic battery).
     
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    This slap is getting way too much attention, when there are much more pressing issues going on in the world..
     
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  10. mutz87

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    In a sense I think it was phone, meaning Will Smith wasn't truly trying to hit him hard because it was for show.

    But I don't think it was planned or that Rock was in on it.
     
  11. l_boy

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    I don’t know about CA but in TX there is a different standard for family violence. The police can, and actually must act if they have suspicion of family violence, even if the victim declines to press charges. It was a law initiated to protected battered spouses who often fail to press charges.
     
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  12. BigCypressGator1981

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    Right like women’s college swimming forever being tarnished by a woman with a penis!
     
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  13. mutz87

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    Yes. Somewhere on this thread I believe is a vid of the slap slowed down. He def connects, but he exaggerates a lot afterward.
     
  14. antny1

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    Ha. I was thinking Sonny punching Carlo in the godfather. Terrible camera angle caught him whiffing by a good foot although in this case Will did land some fingers at a minimum.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    Speaking of shaved heads, holy cow John Travolta.
     
  16. g8rjd

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    It is an autoimmune skin disorder where the immune system attacks the body’s hair follicles. While it is not, itself, life endangering, there are indications that people who have an autoimmune disorder are more likely to develop other autoimmune disorders, which can be more dangerous, physically painful, and life endangering.

    HTH.
     
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  17. l_boy

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    I am really embarrassed to say this, and suspect it may be the last time and only time it has or will ever happened, but I kind of agree with MTG.
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    Shame on you. ;> I had somewhat of a similar inclination, until I saw that she had that opinion, after which I concluded I must surely be wrong. Now I'm just trying not to think about it
     
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  19. 06GATORS08

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    I don't know if i'd characterize it as "out of line" but I thought it was low, not that I think Smith's actions are justified.

    I can only imagine how traumatizing it must be to be a woman suffering hair loss in a society that highly prizes what women look like. It's not a life threatening condition but it probably significantly messes with your emotions and confidence.

    Now imagine getting singled out in a crowd of your peers over this condition to you can't really do anything about at the expense of a lame joke. If my job is to make people laugh I probably would ask myself if the juice was worth the squeeze on a joke like that.
     
  20. l_boy

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    I think we are both experiencing cognitive dissonance.