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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    How do you without any doubt say yes or no? We have no long term data on these vaccines yet.
    Is it likely that far from her shots, of course not. But has anyone learned anything from the last 2 years?? Just because there is no current study or science that says it’s not a thing doesn’t mean it’s not.
    People need to get away from terms like the science is settled. The day science is settled is the day we stop discovering things.
     
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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    Tell this to the crowd that is up in arms every time the CDC changes their guidance.
     
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  7. gator95

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    I give you the brilliance of Jen Psaki:

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    Just next level bat shit crazy.
     
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    Yeah, don't know how you could make a statement like that without receiving copious amounts of ridicule.
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    We don't know for sure. But the study I linked showed zero clots past one month. If this athlete's clot is from the vaccine and it occurred 7 months after vaccination, she would be 1 in millions.

    We also know what's in the vaccine. One stand of mRNA plus organic compounds that keep the RNA from breaking down quickly. All vaccine components do break down and do leave the body within 12 hours of the jab. The vaccine compound itself causing a clot 7 months later is darn near impossible.

    What the vaccine does is trigger the body's immune response. Sometimes, complications happen, including blood clots. But if the immune response from the vaccine is the cause here, that's an immune response that occurred 7 months later. Highly unlikely.
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    Are they up in arms because of the changes or are they up in arms because the CDC has been back and fourth on a few of their suggestions? Or how about their initial “science” on natural immunity made last year that made absolutely no sense to than be completely opposite of their initial claim later in 2021.

    By the way, how many people are still wearing cloth mask despite what the cdc is saying now?
     
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    Listen, I’ll say this once. There is no history or occurrences of vaccines having “long term unknown” side effects. Yes there are side effects, but they are known pretty quickly. Unexpected side effects don’t just crop up years down the road. That doesn’t happen. It really makes no sense that it would happen. It would be like taking a pill, one single pill, nothing happens but worrying something unexpected may happen 5 years down the road.

    What Are the Long-term Side Effects of COVID-19 Vaccine? | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
     
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  14. BigCypressGator1981

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    Is “back and forth” not allowed based on scientific changes?

    and yes lots of people are not following the CDCs guidance. Nothing new there.
     
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    No mask than mask for vaccinated just 2 months later?
    Question NI (despite date from other countries all over the world oh and a century of medical knowledge) over a brand new vaccine that only targets one protein of the virus?
    Screw up early testing kits?
    Hide all data from the public?
    The cdc has exactly been great during this pandemic.
     
  17. surfn1080

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    Have we ever mass vaccinated billions of people with mRNA technology before? Nope

    I’m sure there won’t be but to assume otherwise with brand new technology is ridiculous.

    Again, that’s not science…

    This vaccine already has many more adverse reactions and deaths than any other vaccine ever.

    Sorry if I don’t want to assume those adverse reactions don’t have possible long term issues.
    It is very rare but reckless to say it can’t or won’t happen.
     
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    The COVID vaccine is actually one of the safest, with a very low number of major adverse effects. Unless you are one of the people who misuse VAERS information.

    And again, all ingredients in the vaccine breaks down and leaves the body within 12 hours of being jabbed. The chance of any lingering effect months later is negligible. There's simply nothing in the body that can cause any further reactions other than the initial immune response.
     
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    Florida now releases stats every other week. No update tonight. Just crazy