Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I don't know? Why don't you look in the mirror and answer the question?

 

The good news is I do think we are finally done with the nonsense and can move on with the endemic phase. Unless a variant comes out that trends like Alpha or Delta...we have a less severe version that is basically the flu with a high gradient of risk for the elderly and immune compromised. People saw it first hand with omicold. With that the new drugs failed to slow the spread. Which is going to be an issue as they eventually try to sell the next generation drugs. But that is where we are...

 

Sure, but isn't the point that over 1% of the infected population died?

 

So no healthy child has ever died from COVID? This link tells a different story. This is a study of early pediatric COVID deaths in England, March 2020, through February 2021. Total of 61 total pediatric COVID deaths, and if you look 13 had 0 comorbidities. Low risk, but not zero risk. And while Omicron is less severe than the wild type, Omicron is also significantly more infectious. There will be less hospitalizations and deaths per 100,000, but a lot more kids infected, meaning more negative outcomes as a whole. Exactly why we saw a rise in pediatric hospitalizations with Omicron, with the largest jump among kids under 5 (ineligible for vaccination), and unvaccinated kids over 5.

 

Wacho S urg. Gen. says wacko stuff... surprize. DUH. Q agrees totally ... same DUH. Same lies.

 

The Florida Surgeon General along with other Medical Professionals were meeting to discuss this. Unfortunately your response is expected. Par for the course.

 

61, not even worth mentioning.

 

61 in UK, a country 1/5 the size in population as the US. Also a report taken during the Alpha phase, not Delta or Omicron. This is why, the US is reporting 1,125 pediatric COVID deaths. Not all, of course, could have been saved by the vaccine, as the vaccine wasn't always available. And some kids are vaccinated and still can't beat COVID. But using the UK data, 240 of the US kids had 0 comorbidities at TOD.

Now the risks are really low. But as a parent, I know I want to lower the risk as much as possible within reason. I'm not going to seclude my family and live like hermits, but what I can do is vaccinate my kids. That takes less than an hour in total time, over the course of a couple of weeks. With very little risk, and with rewards that outweigh them, including again, lowering the risk of MIS-C by 90% or more.

Like I've said before. The next time I drive my kid around town, the risk of him dying is small. But why not take the 3 seconds and lower the risk by buckling him in properly?

 

Article from 2018 studying 2016 data (first one that came up on google search)...

Exponentially more die in care crashes. Exponentially more die from firearms. Exponentially more die from pediatric cancer. Expoentially more from suffocation (most are suicide/interesting to see how this stat changes after the way we just handled Covid and the mental damage we caused and assume the firearm deaths include a fair number of suicide as well). Etc Etc Etc...

And some want to focus on pushing new drugs on kids that do not stop the kids from getting the disease. Crazy!

Car Crashes, Guns Killed the Most U.S. Children and Teens in 2016 | Health News | US News

 

What's the thought process? Because more kids die in car crashes, we shouldn't worry or try and reduce the risk of pediatric death from COVID? Why can't we reduce risk of death from all causes? Don't we want our children to grow up healthy?

 

Don't bother with the fear monger. I've shown proof that healthy kids don't die from covid. This poster is resorting to posting anything and everything to scare people. Luckily no one listens to him. Any study showing kids dying from covid are usually accompanied by a later fact finding that the kids dying had other issues, not related to covid. I've posted them countless times on this thread. I don't reply to the fear monger anymore because when someone is so ignorant it isn't worth your time. Usually I just laugh at his post and move on. He's been on the wrong side of almost every covid issue from the beginning and is really upset about that. You'd think someone that wrong would shut up.

 

So the parents of kids who were healthy and died of COVID were lying. The UK study that showed 21% of early COVID pediatric deaths is lying too. But you are the now the single source of COVID pediatric truth!

 

No...the thought process is some want to push a new drug onto kids who are little to no risk with no long term safety data. Considering the new drug has not stopped or slowed the ability of the kids from getting the disease...it makes no sense to have them take it unless there is a medical reason for doing so. But I understand we have scared people into jabbing their kids with a new drug. Now for some parents...maybe they see enough benefit to do so. No way my kids are taking one of these drugs at this point and time. A new variant comes out that is more deadly and we have drugs designed for it in particular and kids are in the gradient of high risk...things can change. But right now. Florida has this one right.

 

Q doesn't mind a hundred or so needless pediatric deaths to maintain his political vax narrative,

 

What a petty nonsensical lie. Par for the course.

 

Is there long term safety data on getting sick with COVID? Do we know if COVID is a disease like chicken pox, that decades later, may cause shingles? No. Speaking of long term risk, the risk is much higher from getting the virus and having millions of viral particles in the body, versus the vaccine, which contains organic materials that all break down and leave the body within 12 hours.

And the benefit from the vaccine? Does reduce spread by about 20%. Reduces COVID hospitalizations by 50%, and the risk of MIS-C by over 90%.

 

61 in a country of 4 million children. Insignificant on a macro level.
If a parent wishes to vaccinate their children, have at it. It should not be mandated.

 

The drugs do not stop people from getting it. So there is no reason to take a drug that is not going to stop you from getting the disease when there is almost no risk from the disease. It is completely unnecessary. But to each their own.

 

i know. I just took maybe roughly 100 million cases and 1 million deaths is approx 1%. It’s just an average. Of course it’s different across age groups. It’s amazing the lengths some will go to diminish the seriousness of the disease and also diminish the effectiveness of prevention strategies.

 

On a micro level, yes. On the micro level, had the vaccine been available during this time, and saved 50 of these kids, what do you think the parents would have thought?

The risk is low. But that doesn't mean it can't be lower. I just don't understand anyone who doesn't want to take less than a total of 1 hour, spread out over a couple of weeks, to reduce a risk for their kids. Look at any disease we inoculate for, are the risks really that high to kids? No. But why take the risk when there is a simple and easy way to reduce it, costs no money, and only a little bit of time? Which is why vaccines are for many diseases are already mandated.