Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

You mean by getting the vaccine?

 

No. Awful job he did by not using the resources available to better educate the public of the benefits and data but instead choosing to take away careers and such.

Where were the TV ads during the highly viewed events showing us the data that might change minds? Where was the effort to maybe put a different PR face in front of the camera when it became clear that Fauci had lost a lot of trust? Something as simple as a different spokesperson delivering Fauci's info would have helped as people dug in.

Something about attracting bees with honey applies here.

Those moves (mandates/terminations) appeared political in nature in our current climate and were failures of strategy.

The first thing I would do is find a moderate voice to be the face of the CDC/governments position.

Fauci has become viewed as a political shrill and his voice is white noise to the snowblind at this point. Not changing that has been a failure.

And a reminder that I am on the record supporting Fauci on most counts.

 

Then stop firing people and ruining careers and spend those recourses crafting a better message.

 

The message is fine. It's not that hard to understand either: wash your hands regularly, mask, social distance to the extent possible, and then when vaccines became available, get freakin vaccinated. It's the confused and anti-vaxxers that compel even stronger responses like mandatory vaccinations. In any case, govt leaders have a right duty to protect people from others who don't give care, especially due to the way in which this disease spreads, where even those who try to do everything right can spread it and get others killed, albeit unintentionally.

 

Don’t waste your time. These posters are so far gone in believing that masks and everything they did was right. They refuse to accept data that shows lockdowns, school closures and masks didn’t work. And now we have the dem talking points saying to covid is political killer so they have their new talking points and their new “science”. It’s embarrassing that they don’t admit at this point. They fired health care workers, many of whom have better protection than just being vaccinated. It’s all political. Fauci, trump, biden and the cdc were all at fault during this pandemic. Anyone arguing otherwise is playing politics only.

 

Why wouldn’t you just wear an N95 and get vaccinated then you don’t have to worry about getting infected or infecting others? If others don’t want to wear a mask or get vaccinated that’s on them now. The risk is theirs. But at this point it’s really academic. Unless you are immunocompromised the need for wearing a mask (N95 only) is moot.

 

Yes, the deaths have been mostly unvaxxed by a large margin. But you realize that a lot of red states have large black and Hispanic populations too, right? Once again, I am comfortable saying that at least 50 percent of those unvaxxed deaths, at least in the state of Florida, were of groups that no one would consider “on the right”.

 

Paywall. So did they ever find an infected animal associated with that wet market?

 

Well as of this Wednesday, for the first time in nearly 2 years, my son's school will be in session, live, with no masks.

Two. Years.

Statement says they reserve the right to reimplement masks as needed. Distancing & other restrictions (lockers etc) will remain in place.

 

Just nuts. FL has been in person schooling since fall of 2020 and we’ve been mask optional for almost a year. So stupid some areas are still masking kids. Just next level dumb.

 

Any person involved in this situation should be removed from public office. The damage done to the kids in your community is evil. And the poorest will be the ones hurt the worst.

 

It's been ridiculous. I'm lucky my son is a 7th grader. Those early developmental years are gone for so many kids. Hopefully the rest of their restrictions will go away soon, too.

Kids who want to use them can & good for them. My son's vaxxed, boosted, and basically healthy as a horse. Barring an outbreak I won't make him put it on.

 

My guess would be that while a larger portion of white republicans are unvaccinated, those unvaxxed in black and Hispanic communities are probably at a comparatively lower level economically and are more likely to come in contact with covid and probably not be as proactive getting care.

 

That's crazy. My kid was out for remainder of 2019-2020 but by fall of 2020 back in school on a modified schedule basis. We are in TX. While I think TX republicans are crazy in many respects and the rhetoric on covid has at times been moronic, but nonetheless on this issue I think being back in school was much better.

 

But isn't the story we keep hearing all about the unvaxxed and how they're all right wingers and how they are "killing" people? That seems to be the narrative I continually hear from the left no matter how often I try to dispel it based on what I have witnessed every time I step on the Covid floor. "It's all those damn right wingers who are too stupid and don't care about their fellow man that we have to blame for filling up the hospitals!". Why is it that the non-right wingers keep getting a pass from the left and are given all kinds of excuses for not getting vaxxed? And how do those on the left who say they don't care if non-vaxed people die or "deserve what they get" feel knowing that a very large percentage of those unvaxxed fall into a class of people they claim to care about and "champion"?

 

There is no doubt that covid disproportionately kills the unvaccinated and that Republicans are disproportionately unvaccinated vs others. All else equal, that would mean covid is killing more Republicans. However what I don't know is if "all else is equal". It could be that a higher percentage of unvaccinated democrats die than unvaccinated republicans.

I have seen no formal stats of covid deaths and political affiliation. I'm guessing they don't exist. That would be an awkward poll to pursue.

 

Non of that changes anything I said at all.

 

Then I guess I have no idea what you said.

 

plain and simple he said a good deal of the unvaxed in red states are black and hispanic,traditionally not, i repeat not republican voters, so the unvaxed numbers are not fully accurate. plus i wonder how many non-vaxed democrats in blue states are off-set by vaxed republicans in those states?

 

Maybe because it's been rightwingers who've gone bananas setting their hair on fire in defiance of covid being anything more dangerous than the "just the flu" such that over he two years, they created an alternate universe untethered from science and rational thinking?

And maybe the result of this alternate reality is that Republicans & white evangelical Christians appear to have two of the lowest vaccination rates of any group in the US, lower than blacks and Hispanics?