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The CDC attribution to your image is shameful. Blatant misinformation. I'm sure you don't care about such things as truth and your own credibility.

 

Fast-Spreading Covid-19 Omicron Type Revives Questions About Opening Up

Omicron 2.0 is here!

 

fauci alert,fauci alert mask up, vaccinate

 

COVID-19 cases in the US have dropped more than 90% since reaching a pandemic peak in January to put you-know-who back to where he belongs, out of sight.

 

For those people who think actual science is funny (looking at you, @QGator2414 and @gator95), here's some more articles explaining why it takes two weeks after the final shot to be fully vaccinated. From this article:

The FDA-authorized Covid vaccines are, in some ways, like Spider-Man.

"When Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider, he's not able to climb walls right away," said Dr. Vince Silenzio, an M.D. and professor in the Rutgers School of Public Health. Similar to the bite that endows Parker with certain spider-like superpowers, the Covid vaccines — which afford people a high level of protection against this still relatively new human disease — take a period of time to kick in. "You have to wait for it to really get there," emphasized Dr. Silenzio.
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And here's another one:

Because your immune system has a memory, it can use the vaccine to analyze and store information about the spike protein. It can then draw upon this information to protect you if you’re exposed to the actual virus in the future.

However, immunity doesn’t happen immediately after vaccination. In fact, it typically takes about 2 weeks for your body to build up immunity. Because of this, you can still become ill during this time frame.​

And here is a general primer referring to all vaccines, not just COVID.

Vaccines help develop immunity by imitating an infection. This type of infection, however, almost never causes illness, but it does cause the immune system to produce T-lymphocytes and antibodies. Sometimes, after getting a vaccine, the imitation infection can cause minor symptoms, such as fever. Such minor symptoms are normal and should be expected as the body builds immunity.

Once the imitation infection goes away, the body is left with a supply of “memory” T-lymphocytes, as well as B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that disease in the future. However, it typically takes a few weeks for the body to produce T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes after vaccination. Therefore, it is possible that a person infected with a disease just before or just after vaccination could develop symptoms and get a disease, because the vaccine has not had enough time to provide protection.
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It's not like the scientists who work at Big Pharma companies and the CDC sat around together, watched the Money Pit, and decided "two weeks" until full vaccination made sense. There's actual science around this time frame, and there is nothing arbitrary at all about it. The fact some find this actual science funny is both frightening and telling.

 

If only we would have followed the focused protection approach and science. Compared to negating scientific principles and science in order to push forth a one size fits all approach. That is an abject failure.

But hey…keep on boosting up with a drug designed to for the spike protein of the alpha variant.

There are likely millions if not billions of people in the world who already have a T-Cell response as well whether from natural immunity or past exposure to a coronavirus.

It really is baffling we continue to try and push these drugs on healthy people who do not want them. They have run their course. And now we have damaged the trust when they finally come out with a new generation. Fortunately we have a couple therapeutics and this thing has turned less severe. Hopefully that continues.

 

So lump anyone who dies during those 2 weeks of anything as long as they tested positive for covid as a covid death. Got it. Sounds brilliant.

 

Updated today, from Washington State. The numbers that show the vaccine protection have remained rather constant over the last few months:

12-34 year olds:

• 3X more likely to get COVID
• 6X more likely to be hospitalized

34-65 year olds:

• 4X more likely to get COVID
• 7X more likely to be hospitalized

65 and older:

• 5X more likely to get COVID
• 9X more likely to be hospitalized
• 7X more likely to die

The vaccine doesn't offer the same protection it did against infection with the wild type, or even Delta. But what out there offers better protection?

And yes, @gator95, those who get infected before a full two weeks after the final COVID shot are not fully vaccinated. If we want to count them with partially vaccinated deaths, some places do exactly that. But they should not be counted as fully vaccinated. Because, you know, science.

 

Please provide any example of a vaccine that isn't "Compared to negating scientific principles and science in order to push forth a one size fits all approach" You state a comparison, so what vaccine are you comparing?

AzCat proved your "But hey…keep on boosting up with a drug designed to for the spike protein of the alpha variant." to be patently worthless already.

Seems your favorite solution would involve Covid clinics to administer live virus to the public rather than protect the public with a vaccine. S igh

 

Anyone believing that a 12 year old has who’s vaccinated has a lower chance of being hospitalized compared to and unvaccinated 12 year old is either ignorant or stupid. I’ve posted the data ad nauseum that teen boys have a significantly higher chance of being hospitalized with myocarditis than from Covid itself. Only fear mongers like yourself would knowing use false data to make the vaccine appear safer than it is. Just gloss over the 40-60% of the hospitalizations “with” Covid. What a joke. And guy wonder why no one believes the crap you throw against the wall.

 

It is not hard to see that scientific principles were ignored in order to push a one size fits all approach. We had the data. It provided a huge gradient in risk differences for this disease. Yet we went all out to push a vaccine that did not slow the spread that was new technology. And we ended up with Covid positive people during delta out thinking they had allergies while natural immunity worked and was ignored. Then omicold came along and could care less if you were vaccinated line delta and also showed little regard for those with natural immunity. But the entire time healthy people are at a far lower risk than older and unhealthy people. Vaccinated or unvaccinated.

We see more and more doctors every day realizing the Great Barrington Declaration would have been the superior decision. At the same time we are where we are and have to move forward.

It really is unfortunate to witness the damage that has been done. And it is going to continue. Vaccine hesitancy is going to be at levels never seen for drugs that it should not be.

But hey. Go booster with the drug designed for the alpha variant. While the cdc comes out with guidance for 12-39 year old males to wait 8 weeks between the first and second dose of Pfizer and the still not approved Moderna drugs lol. Pretty sure most in that group has made the decision on whether to take one of these drugs lol.

 

So again, to be clear, you have no idea or example of any vaccine that has ever been designed that WASN'T a "one size fits all. LOL

What variant that didn't exist at the time did you want the vaccine to designed for? That's not an intelligent take.... omg.

As the poster child for political antivax, I anticipated nothing less from you than the ideological tirade of non-science you consistently espouse.

The rest of your post is all old lies, misinformation and the like that have all been disproven in this thread ad nauseum.

 

We have never forced a new drug on an entire population (we are working on 6 month to 5 year olds now) where most of the population is at little risk. That is not using scientific principles or science. Add to it the drug does not even slow the spread. It can provide a small therapeutic benefit to some.

This was not science. And the damage done to science is palpable!

 

Data shows that the vaccine slows the spread of covid.

 

It's not shameful nor disinformation. Feel free to get your next shot. It won't keep you from getting the virus and it won't keep you from spreading it.

 

Clearly moved on from Covid.

 

1. That’s not totally true
2. Why are you focusing only on infection?

 

The next time any valid data is recognized by Q will be the first.

 

New info today:

Fresh lab leak fears as study finds genetic code in Covid's spike protein linked to Moderna patent | Daily Mail Online

 

The GBD is right-wing libertarian driven rubbish.

It's Dr. John Snow Dr. Johnny Bananas leaving the water pump handle on.