War in Ukraine

How many lives are saved versus killed as a result of an IC failure?

 

If we're talking about Americans: read up on Iraq and Afghanistan and you'll find your answer.

 

Putin evacuating women and children from russian occupied parts of Ukraine. All men 16 - 50 being enscribed for war.

Separatist leader in eastern Ukraine announces evacuation of residents

 

wth they work in a job where even if they do manage to get it mostly right there are hundreds of other people between most analysts and the final outcome in the field. Holding them accountable for not being perfect is laughable and out of touch with reality.

 

Team Biden squad's answer to posts they can't refute = "come on man". Lol.. impressive and against forum guidelines if I'm not mistaken. You can't just go drop a bunch of come on man's without having something substantive to respond with.

 

Never said they had to be perfect. Also, it's pretty strange that our intelligence was "the devil" when Bush was in office, but now, they should never be questioned. Hmm.. Wonder why that sentiment changed.

 

bush was the devil when bush was in office. Ic was the scapegoat. Not that it has anything to do with this really at all.

 

Intelligence community was considered the devil? You got evidence of that?

 

Nope. You're right. Nobody in the media questioned our intelligence community when there were no WMD found in Iraq. Not a peep.

 

The media questioned the IC so that makes them the devil? The media questions everything

 

Really? Although this was the exception it was published a month before Bush's invasion.
UN Inspectors Find No Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Institute for Policy Studies
And those was published three months following the invasion.
Intelligence and Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Lessons from the Iraq War

And then there was this:
The hunt for weapons of mass destruction yields - nothing

I might also add, part of the intelligence failure was attributable to Saddam Hussein's intention to create the illusion that Iraq had WMD, possibly one of the greatest miscalculations in history although Bush was set on the invasion and would have probably found another pretext.

 

If there are 150,000 of them on the border of Ukraine, with supply likes established and medical and other facilities nearby, then we can draw conclusions.

 

Please don’t let him switch the topic. There is no IC issue here. It is simply as easy as looking at satellite photos of the troop and naval deployments. And Putin is on a dark place. If he doesn’t get something from the west he wants, he has left himself no out.

 

What will be interesting is how the US responds to cyber warfare attacks

 

We will see more of US cyber capabilities. This is it something the US engages in because we reserve it for strategic response.

 

You can give me all the dislikes you want. But there comes a time when it is in the national interest that the fringe right wingers understand that the propaganda they are being fed is just that. It is time for them to pull their heads out of their backsides and stop searching their fake news sources for stupid memes and understand the depth of the crises. I hope my message is clear enough here. Your meme is the Putin line.

 

I’m sure some would be surprised how superior our capabilities are

 

Agree, Biden really can't do much. NATO isn't going to war over this.
Germany needs the Nat Gas or Russia can just freeze them out.
The US(citizens) doesn't want to get into with Russia over the Ukraine.

If Putin really wants to take it he will and there isn't crap that will be done about it.