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(GYM) Road To Nationals Standings Week 6

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  1. Feb 14, 2022 #1
    gatornharlem

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    Gators move up to #2 with this week's top score of 198.150. They were the only school to hit 198+ They had the top Vault score of 49.550 and the top Floor score of 49.800.
    The SEC is BEAM QUEEN with the top 4 BB teams.
    Rankings are still based on team's average scores. NQS (National Qualifying Scores) Standings- Top 6 regular season meet scores, of which 3 must be away, high score is eliminated and remaining 5 are calculated- will not begin until a team has competed in at least 6 meets, of which 3 have been away. Blue indicates NCAA current highest score in 2022

    1. Michigan
    Ave 197.963
    High 198.525
    2. Florida
    Ave 197.638
    High 198.250
    3. Oklahoma
    Ave 197.604
    High 198.200
    4. Utah
    Ave 197.496
    High 197.775
    5. LSU
    Ave 197.400
    High 197.975
    6. Minnesota
    Ave 197.313
    High 197.650
    7. Auburn
    Ave 197.250
    High 197.750
    8. Alabama
    Ave 197.154
    High 197.875
    9. California
    Ave 196.960
    High 197.525
    10. Kentucky
    Ave 196.880
    High 197.450
    11. Missouri
    Ave 196.850
    High 197.650
    12. Denver
    Ave 196.800
    High 197.600
    ...
    15. UCLA
    Ave 196.410
    High 197.650
    16. Arkansas
    Ave 196.370
    High 197.200
    ...
    27. Georgia
    Ave 196.500
    High 196.800

    Team Event Standings
    VAULT
    1. Michigan
    Ave 49.592
    High 49.875
    2. Florida
    Ave 49.363
    High 49.550
    3. LSU
    Ave 49.350
    High 49.475
    3. Utah
    Ave 49.350
    High 49.550
    5. Minnesota
    Ave 49.325
    High 49.575
    6. Oklahoma
    Ave 49.308
    High 49.500
    7. Auburn
    Ave 49.288
    8. Kentucky
    Ave 49.260
    9. Georgia
    Ave 49.215
    10. Oregon St.
    Ave 49.219
    11. Alabama
    Ave 49.179
    UB
    1. Oklahoma
    Ave 49.513
    High 49.650
    2. Michigan
    Ave 49.479
    High 49.550
    3. LSU
    Ave 49.413
    High 49.500
    4. Florida
    Ave 49.400
    High 49.725
    5. California
    Ave 49.395
    High 49.475
    6. Utah
    Ave 49.375
    High 49.550
    7. Alabama
    Ave 49.375
    High 49.550
    8. Kentucky
    Ave 49.320
    BB
    1. Florida
    Ave 49.392
    High 49.700
    2. Auburn
    Ave 49.388
    High 49.625
    3. LSU
    Ave 49.313
    High 49.475
    4. Alabama
    Ave 49.308
    High 49.650
    5. Michigan
    Ave 49.304
    High 49.500
    5. Oklahoma
    Ave 49.304
    High 49.700
    7. Missouri
    Ave 49.295
    High 49.425
    8. Utah
    Ave 49.288
    High 49.725
    FLOOR
    1. Michigan
    Ave 49.588
    High 49.700
    2. Minnesota
    Ave 49.544
    High 49.725
    3. Utah
    Ave 49.483
    High 49.675
    4. Florida
    Ave 49.483
    High 49.800
    5. Oklahoma
    Ave 49.479
    High49.625
    6. Oregon St
    Ave 49.425
    High 49.675
    7. Iowa
    Ave 49.382
    High 49.650
    8. LSU
    Ave 49.325
    9. Auburn
    Ave 49.321
    10. Missouri
    Ave 49.315
    11. Arkansas
    Ave 49.305
    INDIVIDUAL- Top 50 Florida
    VAULT
    5. Trinity Thomas
    Ave 9.921
    High 10.000
    8. Nya Reed
    Ave 9.917
    High 9.975
    41. Megan Skaggs
    Ave 9.855
    High 9.900
    55. Savannah Schoenherr
    Ave 9.845
    High 9.950
    UB
    14. Leanne Wong
    Ave 9.900
    High 10.000
    18. Trinity Thomas
    Ave 9.896
    High 9.975
    26. Savannah Schoenherr
    Ave 9.887
    High 9.975
    38. Megan Skaggs
    Ave 9.875
    High 9.900
    BB
    11. Trinity Thomas
    Ave 9.906
    High 10.000
    24. Leah Clapper
    Ave 9.883
    High 9.975
    27. Megan Skaggs
    Ave 9.879
    High 9.925
    29. Payton Richards
    Ave 9.875
    High 9.875
    89. Sloane Blakely
    Ave 9.825
    High 9.950
    FX
    1. Trinity Thomas
    Ave 9.975
    High 10.000
    2. Nya Reed
    Ave 9.970
    High 10.000
    28. Leanne Wong
    Ave 9.900
    High 9.975
    52. Megan Skaggs
    Ave 9.875
    High 9.950
    53. Alyssa Baumann
    Ave 9.870
    High 9.975
    AA
    4. Trinity Thomas
    Ave 39.675
    High 39.750
    14. Leanne Wong
    Ave 39.525
    High 39.650
    17. Mean Skaggs
    Ave 39.475
    High 39.525
     
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  2. Feb 14, 2022 #2
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    Good looking top 10.

    UF is at UK this Friday night. The Wildcats knocked off Missouri in Columbia last Friday. Look for UK to give the Gators their best shot.

    UF needs to continue to tighten the rotations and increase starting values.

    On the floor, I'd like to see Alyssa Baumann start doing 3 passes of tumbling like the other top gymnasts. She did that up until this season.

    If Riley McCusker can add another performance routine, now would be the time to do that, health permitting. I saw a video on Dr. Sam's site in which Riley was looking good on a beam routine.

    It's good times in the SEC with 6 of the top 11. Anybody in the top 8 can get hot at the right time and make some noise.
     
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  3. Feb 14, 2022 #3
    gatornharlem

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    ESPN has a documentary on gymnastics coaches Suzanne Yoculan of Georgia and Sarah Paterson of Alabama and how their rivalry was instrumental in turning the deep south-college football crazy-into college gymnastics crazy. If you haven't watched it ETGator1 (I am sure you have), you def should check it out.
    I watched the Michigan meet yesterday. I know they were resting 2 of their AAs to limited action. Vey impressed with their UB lineup! Love their routines! Their Vaults are impressive. Notice who anchored Michigan's vault line-up? The only gymnast with a 9.95 start value. Overall they seemed a little tired. It will be interested to watch how they finish the season.
     
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  4. Feb 15, 2022 #4
    gatornharlem

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    With NQS standings beginning next week, here's a very good article in The Balance Beam Situation website on teams' current standings and the current NQS picture for the top 50 teams.

    Here's what they say on the current top 5:

    1. Michigan – 197.963
    Road Score 1 198.525
    Road Score 2 198.025
    Road Score 3
    Home/Road Score 1 197.950
    Home/Road Score 2 197.925
    Home/Road Score 3 197.750
    Current NQS: N/A
    Michigan has competed at only two road meets thus far so will not have an official NQS until after the Big Five meet this Friday. Sunday’s 197.600 was Michigan’s lowest home score of the season so far and was dropped so doesn’t influence the NQS.


    2. Florida – 197.638
    Road Score 1 197.775
    Road Score 2 196.975
    Road Score 3*
    Home/Road Score 1 198.250
    Home/Road Score 2 198.150
    Home/Road Score 3 197.675
    Current NQS: N/A
    Like Michigan, Florida will not have an NQS until after Friday’s meet because of the team’s home-heavy early schedule and road-heavy late schedule. Florida has the clear edge on Michigan in home scores, but with just one usable road score thus far compared to Michigan’s two road 198s, Florida will have to start getting the away results to keep up.

    3. Oklahoma – 197.604
    Road Score 1 197.900
    Road Score 2 196.650
    Road Score 3
    Home/Road Score 1 198.200
    Home/Road Score 2 198.050
    Home/Road Score 3 197.425
    Current NQS: N/A
    Oklahoma’s current setup is quite similar to Florida’s, with two home 198s and only one usable road score so far, though Oklahoma lost some ground this week when Florida got a 198 and Oklahoma had a beam dud. One difference in Oklahoma’s favor is that Oklahoma has a busier remaining schedule with 5 road-score opportunities still to come in addition to the home finale against Michigan.

    4. Utah – 197.496
    Road Score 1 197.750
    Road Score 2 197.275
    Road Score 3 197.100
    Home/Road Score 1 197.775
    Home/Road Score 2 197.675
    Home/Road Score 3 197.400
    Current NQS: 197.440
    Unlike the top 3, Utah has an NQS at this point, using that consistent slate of 197s to come up with an already competitive 197.440. The problem for Utah will be that every team ranked above them already has two 198s (one to drop and one to count) while Utah has none, so Utah’s potential to improve upon a #4 ranking will be largely handcuffed until those 198s come.

    5. LSU – 197.400
    Road Score 1 197.825
    Road Score 2 196.850
    Road Score 3
    Home/Road Score 1 197.975
    Home/Road Score 2 196.950
    Home/Road Score 3
    Current NQS: N/A
    LSU’s meet cancellations from earlier in the season mean the team has been slightly behind with the number of scores but will officially be caught up following this weekend’s two-meet adventure, with one road meet and one home meet to fill out the picture. With only two scores of LSU level so far, there is a bit more pressure to make sure the remaining meets are mostly good ones, but LSU does have six left.

    *Florida will have to count the 196.975 regardless of how they score this weekend (3 Away scores count). They (we) can drop it after the Auburn meet as long as they score higher in the next 2 away meets. There are 4 more away meets (Kentucky, Auburn, North Carolina State tri-meet and SECs) so a lot of chances to improve our NQS.
     
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  5. Feb 15, 2022 #5
    ETGator1

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    bucknutgator says regular season scores don't matter.....
     
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    As long as you are top 4, which we are...do they matter? If yes, please expand on why
     
  7. Feb 16, 2022 #7
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    The NQS matters because it determines both seeding and location in the regionals. The higher the seed the better. The 1 seed will get a better location than the 4 seed. The 1 seed gets an easier pass as well: 1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, 3 vs. 6, 4 vs. 5. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be 1 facing 8 in a preferred location than 4 facing 5 in a disadvantageous distance location.
     
  8. Feb 16, 2022 #8
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    But it's already been broken down here pretty clearly where the almost certain locations will be for us regardless of seed....it VERY unlikely to matter if we are 1-4. And if we can't finish top 2 in any regional then we have issues that won't matter anyway....I'm not overly concerned with 9-16 seeds in our region, I'm concerned with the health and performance status of UF. 9-16 aren't taking us down if we are healthy.
    I guess that's ultimately what it boils down to for me. We are fine regarding seeding barring catastrophe. The regular season is about taking care of business and setting the table for postseason....and thus far they have done exactly that. I don't care if the announcers for Missouri match didn't like something, I hope Jenny doesn't care either. I want her focused on what is best for UF long term. And that is building toward postseason.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2022 #9
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    I'm not overly concerned with 9-16 either except in the first year of the new system UF didn't advance.

    I'm not willing to brush off the distance and facing a more difficult opponent in the same regional or better teams beyond that either.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
  10. Feb 16, 2022 #10
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    If distance were a factor I might agree....just don't see any way UF will have travel based on the teams/locations this year.
     
  11. Feb 16, 2022 #11
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    where are the regionals this year?
     
  12. Feb 16, 2022 #12
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    the year we didn’t advance, we got sent all the way to the west coast, and the way the seeds worked, we had to face a host who was also just out of the expected advancing seeds. We literally had to go there so they could keep the seeds intact based on where OSU was ranked. Dumbest thing ever and we got penalized for it. So essentially there were three teams for two spots, which was already a bad situation. And even with that, we fell off the beam twice and scored a 48.475 (really low for us even with a fall), which is what doomed us. And would doom us anywhere we went likely.
    This year the only host that has a good team is Auburn, and they are seeded to advance anyway. We could get sent to Seattle, but no teams there are any good, outside of OSU a state away. But the only way we would get sent to Seattle is if Utah doesn’t finish in the top 4, and we finish fourth. Just hope we don’t finish second and Auburn seventh and we are forced to go there.

    but none of the regionals should trouble us if we are half of what we think we are.
     
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  13. Feb 16, 2022 #13
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    Auburn, Champaign, Raleigh and Seattle. Florida's last 2 regular season meets are at Auburn and Raleigh. We will most likely end up at Raleigh or Auburn, depending on our seeding. Seeding is based on NQS standing: top 6 meet scores- 3 must be away- then drop the top score regardless of it being home or away. Add the next 5 (at least 3 away), then divide the total by 5. That is your NQS score. Same formula for individual competition. This is why regular season meets matter. They usually break it down to seeds. Host teams (Washington, Auburn, Illinois, N.C. State) stay at home and then they try to follow seeding: 1,8.9,16 then 2,7,10,15 then 3,6,11,14 and finally 4,5,12,13. 17-36 seeds are placed depending on seed+location (each regional has 9 teams). Michigan will go to Champaign. If we are seeded 2 and Auburn is seeded 7, then we go to Auburn. Same if we are seeded 1 and Auburn #8. Otherwise, we go to Raleigh.
    1st day of regionals the lowest 2 seeds in each regional play-in for a spot for the semis, which will consist of 2 meets, 4 teams in each semifinal meet. Top 2 in each semifinal advance to regional final. Top 2 finishes in each regional final (8 total) advance to Nationals. Both semifinals will have 4 teams. Top 2 advance to Final 4.
     
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