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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator7_5

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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't see anywhere in the PIMS study from Germany that measures the effects of vaccines on PIMS? Seems to only be measuring the effects of covid on PIMS but I'm having trouble reading the study.
     
  4. gatorpa

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    Trouble is with obesity often HTN, DM, CAD are also found all are multipliers with respect to increasing mortality form COVID.
     
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    There isn't mention of myocarditis. I have posted other myocarditis studies showing that the risk in teen boys from the vaccine is significantly higher than getting covid itself. Here is data showing that healthy kids 5-17 are at zero risk of dying from covid. We rushed to vaccinate kids who have ZERO risk.
     
  8. mutz87

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    Myocarditis would fall under "PIMS" (pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome).

    However, did you see any mention of vaccines?

    Unless I'm missing something, I think the study strictly measured the effects of covid, not vaccines.
     
  9. GatorNorth

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    The politicization of covid by both sides is one of the political low water marks of my lifetime.

    Dems gloat when cases in FL, GA and TX increase.

    Pubs gloat when cases in CA, NY and NJ increase.

    Meanwhile about 2,000 Americans are still dying daily while the banter continues.

    It's thoroughly disgusting.

    (and this is not a shot @buckeyegator, who had his new thread moved here, but a broader comment that I tried to make in his now consolidated thread.).
     
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  11. l_boy

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    The risk for kids dying of covid is very low but it isn't zero.
     
  12. gator95

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    Healthy kids in this huge study. Zero. Healthy kids at John's Hopkin's, Zero.
     
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    True, on average 400 kids die in the US every year from drowning, since May of 2020 548 have died from COVID, so more die from drowning than Covid.
    Just for perspective.
     
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    You aren't even addressing the fact that about 35% of all pediatric covid deaths aren't due to covid at all. Anyone quoting those numbers is purposely trying to scare people.
     
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    An update on CDC vaccinated vs unvaccinated death data by age group.

     
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    That's not real data. That's data from a model. Pretty big distinction. No need to post models when we have real world data to show.
     
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    Sure, bud. Whatever you say.
     
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    What he says is word salad.
     
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    Ok, so where is the data to back those numbers?
     
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    I read the study when he it was posted by another poster. I just didn’t want to look for it. The primary source is always better than someone’s explanation for it and data is always better than an opinion that is contradicted by the data
     
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