Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Hammer a populace with terror and profound disruption to healthy social interaction, morning, noon and night; months and months and months on end … feign incredulity when health declines young and old alike.

 

Go back and read what my point is. It's explained.

 

Here is the breakdown by state;

 

So no explanation why medical professionals in multiple states are raising concerns about the increase in pediatric COVID hospitalization rates. Just snark. Figures.

 

It's called RSV and flu. I posted the data earlier. You ignored it. Shocking. Just like you ignored natural immunity and that masks don't work. Fear up everyone!

 

Yeah, not unexpected reply since it’s pretty much the only response you guys have when the many shortcomings of this administration are brought up. Trump’s inability to communicate doesn’t make her any less of a cackling empty suit who’s in waaaaaaay over her head.

 

I survived. Holy crap. Maxed fever of 104, etc. Sent my boss the photo that I'd gotten my booster. He said good because he'd just gotten a letter from the State saying I needed to be fired for noncompliance. *facepalm*

Btw I'm listed officially as "remote".

I get to go back for the lower-dose booster in 4-5 months depending on my blood counts.

Ugh.

 

In his defense, we lost to UCF. We do suck again.

 

No denying the flu and RSV are part of the equation. But when was the last time those two conditions filled up pediatric hospital beds alone? As the Journal of American Medicine puts it, the potential tridemic, which includes COVID, is putting a major strain on pediatric hospitals.

And again, if the culprit is really the flu and RSV, why are medical professionals in several states are talking about COVID? Do they really just enjoy fear mongering? Or are they just ignoring the data, and all should be listening to you?

By the way, it is possible to have two or more infections at the same time. And when a child has both RSV and COVID, there is greater risk and higher hospital rates. Which again, begs the question, when was the last time we was pediatric hospitalization rates spike like we have in the last few weeks? If the answer is never, then how can the cause be RSV and the flu, which are diseases that have been around forever, and not place the blame on the novel COVID virus Omicron variant?

 

It's almost like you try to be so wrong it's a like a parody account.


Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents

Bad flu seasons test US hospitals

Hospitals Overflow as Flu Epidemic Spreads Unabated

Local hospitals ask flu patients to stay away

 

All your links talk about all ages. I specifically asked for a rise in pediatric hospitalizations. The 2018/19 flu season you mention was an epidemic, but the corresponding hospital rates rose for all ages. We are currently seeing more kids in the hospital now than even during this flu epidemic, and more kids in the hospital with COVID than ever before. Not a swing a miss, but a just a foul tip.

 

Nope. Good try at fear mongering. Epic fail. It's like whatever you say, the opposite is true. Quite amazing. I've never seen someone so wrong in my life. Hilarious.

CDC: Young children hospitalized for flu at highest rates, 7 have died | AAP News | American Academy of Pediatrics

Flu Hospitalizations in Youngest Kids Highest Ever, CDC Says

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthi...aths-as-flu-activity-increases-in-us-cdc-says

Flu Rates Rising, Pediatric Deaths Double Compared to 2018: CDC

Flu kills two children; hospitalizations up 89 percent from last week, state reports

 

Better. But again, the 18/19 flu season saw rises in cases and hospitalization for all age groups. One of your first links was even said for otherwise healthy adults under 65 to stay away from the hospital, because the flu wasn't deadly to them, and the hospital needed the room for the young and the old, who are more susceptible to the virus. In other words, the flu was the underlying cause for the rise in all age groups in hospitalizations.

Here's a current COVID hospitalization page. Nearly 150,000 in the hospital in the US with COVID. Even if we cut that in half, because of people with COVID, that's still 75,000. We are seeing a rise in hospitalizations overall from COVID. But if you look a the current CDC flu page, only 1,804 hospitalizations from the flu in the last week. In other words, we are not seeing a huge spike in flu hospitalizations like we are with COVID.

If the flu was the cause for the current spike in pediatric hospitalization, we would see a corresponding rise in all age groups. Like we did in 18/19. We're not. That's why the medical professionals in several states are saying the current rise in pediatric hospitalizations is due to COVID. Unless you think they are all stupid, and fear mongers.

 

Well the issue is one's credibility. You voted for Trump in 2020 despite all of his obvious massive flaws. So it's kinda funny to see you pick the tiniest of nits now. Also some nice misogyny there. No wonder you were a Trump fan.

 

So you don't listen to anyone. Got it. You just "know better". So awesome. Even when it's disclosed that 50-60% of people in the hospital that have covid aren't there for covid, you still refuse to believe it. Just like arguing against Natural immunity and masks. You are literally the last person on the ship as it's going under.

 

Not a trend just yet but starting to look like Florida has possibly peaked.

Even recent hospitalization data is encouraging.

 

So 1,800 hospital visits last week for the flu. 150,000 Americans in the hospital with COVID. Even if 60% are just there with COVID, and not their original reason, that leaves 60,000. It would take about 7 months at current pace to reach the same number of COVID patients with flu patients. In past flu epidemics, cases rose equally for all age groups. We just aren't seeing that now. So blaming the current rise of pediatric hospitalizations on the flu doesn't make sense. No corresponding rise in flu cases for other age groups. But there are corresponding COVID cases on the rise.

And I do listen to people. Like the medical professionals from several states who all say the rise in pediatric COVID hospitalizations are a major concern. I should ask, why don't you listen to them? Why would they all be telling the same story about pediatric COVID hospitalizations?

 

Here's a story about the risk of getting myocarditis from COVID infection. Alphonso Davies, a 21-year old Canadian soccer star who plays at Bayern Munich, got a booster in December, but still was diagnosed with a breakthrough case early January. First day back at practice, had a routine physical, and team physicians discovered the myocarditis. BM should be fine, but Davies is Canada's best player, and he'll be out three World Cup qualifiers that occur in a few weeks, including a game against the US. Here's the story. By the way, BM had a handful of players, all vaccinated, with breakthrough cases recently. All mild, and all but Davies are back at practice.

 

Wait so gets booster in Dec than Covid within 30 days. Yet they know without any doubt it was just the Covid infection?? This is ridiculous.

Also, look at the study out of the UK.
Men under 40 have a higher chance of getting myocarditis from the vax than from infection.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

 

This study says increase within 28 days of vaccination is higher, but overall, odds of getting myocarditis is higher with COVID infection. Highly unlikely Davies got COVID from his booster he received in December. Likely not within the 28 days.

Simple reason why after vaccination, myocarditis shows up relatively quickly, if it does. The vaccine simply doesn't stay in the body long. And the majority of cases of myocarditis after vaccination were actually within 14 days of getting the jab. The virus, on the other hand, stays in the body for days, if not longer. And myocarditis is often a symptom that shows up weeks after recovery. That's why many more who get COVID get myocarditis a month, or more after initial infection.