Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

News from the Gaetz sex trafficing ordeal

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,246
    703
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    I'm gonna go with the latter
     
  2. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,772
    1,061
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Florida is a two-party consent state (meaning all parties). However, the law in 80% of the states and Federally is that you only need one party to the call to give consent. There’s both criminal and evidentiary implications.

    Even if the call was completely within Florida and didn’t involve another state’s laws, Gaetz is facing Federal crimes and the calls will not be excluded, IMO. Could Florida still prosecute the one recording? It could happen but I wouldn't want to be the prosecutor going after someone busting a pedophile while she was working with law enforcement. Not a great recipe for a conviction.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. Kirby

    Kirby GC Legend

    807
    367
    1,983
    Sep 14, 2009
    Rocket City
    I’m not aligned with any ass clownery. I guess I could join you and the others and align myself with the ass clowns like Andrew Gillam (pun intended) or Hunter Biden. I don’t think so.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. WC53

    WC53 GC Hall of Fame

    4,707
    994
    2,088
    Oct 17, 2015
    Old City
    In a sane world we could all agree Hunter, Andrew and Gaetz are all tools.

    If the call was done at behest/guidance of Feds law enforcement, the call should be legal in Florida.

    Just curious on those that are engaged in mutual criminal conduct and record each other. Any exceptions due to criminal conduct and could call info still be used to guide an investigation vs use in court? Or used for witness impeachment?
     
  5. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,759
    993
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    Does the Mann Act apply if she was 18 or does that only apply to cases involving minors? If she was 18 and it was consensual, would it still violate some Federal laws based upon alleged travel and payments? I don't know how often people are prosecuted for such acts on the Federal level when there is not a minor involved - though state level arrests for prostitution involving adults are obviously common. It's interesting to me that the age of consent under most STATES' laws is 16 or 17. Apparently people think that's okay for whatever reason, but maybe that's another issue.

    One of the biggest issues to me with the allegations about illegal drugs and prostitution is that someone in his position is opening themselves up to be blackmailed. I generally don't think drug use or consensual acts among adults should be criminal. So I'm struggling to be consistent here despite the fact that I don't like Gaetz or his brand of politics.
     
  6. BLING

    BLING GC Hall of Fame

    8,678
    844
    2,843
    Apr 16, 2007
    You sure?

    This post seems to align you with ass-clownery.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2022
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  7. 92gator

    92gator GC Hall of Fame

    14,216
    14,360
    3,363
    Jun 14, 2007
    What did Trump and Lindell do to "show up strong"?
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  8. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,205
    2,514
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Other threads if it wasn’t clear by the way I phrased my OP.
     
  9. SeabudGator

    SeabudGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,037
    654
    2,153
    Apr 23, 2014
    Funny. Some will label anybody on the left who disagrees with them a commie.

    Then, that same person preemptively exonerates a politician literally under indictment by a grand jury, whose girlfriend testified to him having sex with a minor and involvement in sex trafficking. Gaetz’s Ex-Girlfriend Testifies Before Federal Grand Jury
    A simple minded "liberal" might assume that all conservatives supported child abuse and sex trafficking, like said simple minded conservatives...

    Seriously, anybody who thinks this guy, be he Republican or Democrat, belongs in Congress is blindly partisan or sick in the head.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  10. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    There re no more Democrats... none like JFK.
     
  11. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    6,883
    2,537
    2,998
    Jan 15, 2008
    And sadly no more Republicans, like Ronald Reagan.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  12. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    MAGA/Pub is as close to Reagan as the Pubs have gotten since Reagan. I despised the GHWB "New World Order" BS since he ran against Reagan for the Republican nomination for POTUS in 1980.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2022
    • Funny Funny x 5
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  13. BLING

    BLING GC Hall of Fame

    8,678
    844
    2,843
    Apr 16, 2007
    But there’s plenty like Matt Gaetz!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. BLING

    BLING GC Hall of Fame

    8,678
    844
    2,843
    Apr 16, 2007
    [​IMG]
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  15. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Did they hang out on pedo island? No... but there are tons of Dems including slick Willie...
     
  16. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    6,883
    2,537
    2,998
    Jan 15, 2008
    MAGA Pubs, in my opinion and my experience, are nowhere close to Reagan-ites. Reagan was beholden to truth, integrity, American unity and American resolve. Reagan was dynamic, charismatic, intelligent and mission-driven. Reagan understood and cared for all of Americans, including those that did not vote for him. Reagan valued American ideals and traditions, including one of the most significant democratic symbolism shown in the transition of power.

    MAGA Pubs blindly adhere to Trumpian doctrine, untethered to truth or facts. MAGA Pubs fight and degrade anyone who disagrees. MAGA Pubs openly hope for civil war and discord rather than make even a first step to unify.

    MAGA Pubs pout and whine when they lose, pointing fingers at everyone other themselves.

    There is nothing similar to Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, with the sole exception that both were television/movie stars before entering politics.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007

    Low unemployment
    Stronger Military
    Energy independence
    World wide respect by our allies and adversaries
    Low Inflation after their policies implemented
    Two genders
    Law and order across the nation

    Yeah, and you voted for a man the craps his pants... Nice debate.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 14, 2022
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  19. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    87,741
    26,316
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    I do not care how the left sees us. Nor do we care how you try and define us... Reagan was the last true Populist Pub...

    I can see big tears when the Dems lose in the midterms...
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    6,883
    2,537
    2,998
    Jan 15, 2008
    As you can see, I am a fan of Reagan. I’m a fan of many great Republicans that followed, some of whom lost elections to lesser politicians, in my opinion.

    Trump and his Trumpeteers are nowhere in the same book as the leaders of the Republican Party that I admired.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1