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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. antny1

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    Well here is one way to make sure it keeps spreading. Antimasker co-worker worked on my shift last shift. He was on a 48hr shift. I just found out he was sent home with covid on the second half of his shift, his normal 24hr shift when my shift goes home.

    Admin doesn't notify my crew and we find out today by secondhand info when we get to work 2 days later.

    So now we have a guy with Covid and no mask potentially/likely spreading it to my crew, multiple patients we came in contact with last shift, our family members because we weren't told to take precautions and everyone else we work with on our other jobs......

    I'm not a staunch masker especially outside but in close quarters and close proximity with poor ventilation I do believe it's beneficial to wear proper masks.

    Now multiple this irresponsible behavior by all the other non compliant people, work places, administrations etc and you have exponential spread.

    I notified a co worker of the disregard the department has shown and to advise him to avoid his mother who has cancer since they aren't going to tell him if he works with a covid positive person.
     
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  2. surfn1080

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    There are doctors all over the country saying there is just no need. It's clearly different than Delta.

    Also, Omicron appears to infect and start showing symptoms much sooner so we likely will not see nearly the same delay as we did with Delta. What I found interesting regarding the hospital data is that there are already more 70+ year olds admitted in Florida than during the delta wave yet so far no spike in deaths. Deaths could still come later and likely will remain delayed but so far we are not seeing any significant increase in daily deaths.

    every other age group is less than Delta wave despite the more than double amount of daily cases.

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  3. BLING

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    In a clinic that is treating COVID positive shouldn’t you all be wearing N95 at minimum? That seems insane. Or is this something else ( think you mentioned you moved into testing now that in think about it). But yeah, how can people be anti-mask where they are testing for this? Straight up deranged IMO.
     
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  4. BLING

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    Yes, i get that. I’m not saying I expect to match Delta wave in terms of deaths. All indications are the rate of critical patients is far lower with Omicron, but the surge in “cases” is also unprecedented in this pandemic by a scale of 5x. So it doesn’t take much to see a short term spike, the numbers in hospitals have spiked.

    The numbers don’t break out “critical” vs. merely “in hospital”, but the anecdotes I’ve heard are it’s been a tick up in critical patients, but not yet a surge like they saw with the delta wave, and they didn’t even know if these were Omicron patients (possible some delta stragglers popped back up and eventually needed life support). If they can get through the next 2 weeks without a surge in critically ill then indeed there isn’t likely to be one (not from Omicron anyway).
     
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  5. gatordavisl

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    Agreed, but I didn't think you mentioned that in your post. What was your purpose of sharing the diagrams?
     
  6. antny1

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    My fire department job.
     
  7. surfn1080

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    ha stupid autocorrect... I guess I mistyped hospital so bad that it changed it to historical...
     
  8. buckeyegator

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    Good enough for you?
     
  9. dangolegators

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    For the entire pandemic SF has had 80,000 total covid cases. SD has had 198,000 cases. Does obesity make one more likely to get covid too, or does it just make it more likely to have a worse outcome? I'd guess SF's good numbers are a result of a combination of good individual responsibility and local/state covid shutdowns and regulations.
     
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  10. slightlyskeptic

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    Good lord, she's terrible. Poor thing, I thought her head was going to explode. o_O

     
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  11. dingyibvs

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    It's hard to make sense of the data without knowing the specifics. For example, at my hospital, we have just about as many COVID+ admitted pts as last year. The difference is that most of them are admitted for something else and they just happened to test positive for COVID. The result is that we only have like 2 COVID pneumonia patients in the ICU right now as opposed to ~10 last year.

    In case you're curious, basically the only people admitted for COVID pneumonia are unvaccinated. Omicron has not changed that. Since vaccination rate here is pretty high, our hospital volume is about the same as a typical flu season (still haven't seen a case of flu, 2 years running now!). We are still a bit busier than usual though, because a ton of staff have tested positive. They're all vaccinated so not out for long (rules are now to go back o work if asymptomatic), but still there's staff shortage.

    In short, based on what I've seen so far regarding Omicron:
    1) Very contagious, even for the vaccinated/boosted. A big difference compared to Delta in this regard.
    2) Still has a good chance to be pretty severe for the unvaccinated. Not much of an appreciable change compared to Delta in this regard.
     
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  12. dangolegators

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    Huh? She was fine. It's not like she said we should start injecting bleach into people.
     
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  14. BLING

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    Its pretty much the same people (“influencers”) that keep spreading bs, often times ridiculous nonsense that has been debunked 1000x. It’s really not nebulous at all.
     
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  15. slightlyskeptic

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    The only thing "fine" about it was that she didn't resort to her nervous cackling (something her handlers have no doubt warned her about a thousand times) when faced with a question she clearly had no answer for. This was just a short clip. The whole interview illustrated just how empty her suit really is.
     
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  16. surfn1080

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    A past client of mine who turned into a good friend who works in an ICU for AdVent Health tells me a different story. Here is what this person tells me:

    First, most in the ICU have delta by far. It's very rare to have anyone with Omicron in the ICU and usually when they are, it's an older person or someone with serious health issues.

    Second, they see plenty of vaccinated in the ICU and thinks it is wrong to give people a false sense of security due to their vaccine status.

    Third, they see more vaccine-related admission than any admins or the CDC wants to talk about.

    Fourth, most are being treated with a breathing steroid and 3% saline (something hypertonic... lol not sure) type treatment to keep the lungs dry which has dramatically changed how many survive Delta.

    She couldn't stress how much less Omicron is compared to delta. She said Delta in the summer was very scary and is just not seeing it right now.
     
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  17. gator_lawyer

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    Bro, he doesn't believe in germ theory. Don't waste your time.
     
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  18. gatordavisl

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    Didn't see anything terrible there. Then again, I'm not blinded by partisan hatred.
     
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  19. l_boy

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    I can't understand why someone works in health care presumably because they want to help people then refuse to do things to protect patients and other caregivers. I'd be pretty livid.

    Need to go Tom Cruise on them.

    Raging Tom Cruise warns film crew they're 'f***ing gone' if Covid rules broken
     
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