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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. pkaib01

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    On the surface, there is an outstanding question as to how many of the patients are from the 85% vaxxed population. Some of the admissions may be overflow from surrounding areas.

    We also have the ambiguity in reason for care. What percentage of the infected in the ICU are there solely due to covid symptoms? I expect the greater the community spread of covid, the greater the number of incidental hospital admissions.

    That being said, aggregate national numbers show a much clearer picture.
     
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    MCINERNY: This isn't a problem isolated at this small private school in Austin. The nearby Hays Consolidated School District is also asking parents to be substitutes. In other places across the country, districts are lowering the requirements for substitute teachers, waiving application fees and increasing pay. Austin ISD, the biggest public school system in the area, had 100 more sub requests last week compared to the same week last year. This high demand prompted the superintendent to go fill in at a high school math class. But mostly, says Francisca Schindler (ph), an elementary art teacher, teachers are carrying the burden.

    FRANCISCA SCHINDLER: Say that there's three classes in the fourth grade, and one teacher doesn't show up. So those students are divided amongst the other two classes. So now they have a class and a half.

    MCINERNY: She said that's tricky at her campus because a lot of the students are in language programs that don't mix and match. This latest surge has a lot of people asking, why don't schools go back to virtual learning? But in many cases, they don't really have a choice. The state of Texas won't fund schools unless they provide an in-person option. At the Austin Jewish Academy, Principal Aguero says in-person school is crucial to help kids keep a routine and provide normalcy. So he's thankful for the parents helping out.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    And it rings true again…

    The obesity rate in San Francisco County is just over 15%. South Dakota is more than double. What do you want to bet the deaths are close to 1:1 vaccinated to unvaccinated based on vaccination rate and that just about all had multiple comorbidities vaccinated/unvaccinated?

    I am not saying that is definitely the case. But the data speaks to that is where we were headed. But we are not given the data to see. It is pieced out for a narrative. Hence the complete lack of trust with public health and the idiot leadership who thought it would be a good idea to coerce people into taking a drug.

    So now we are at a point where you can booster with a new drug that still to this day only has one fully “approved” and it really is struggling to do much of anything with omicron/omicold.

    Time to focus on the therapeutics and next generation of drugs that might actually help slow the spread when the next wave comes.
     
  4. dangolegators

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    SD has double the obesity rate and 13X the covid death rate. So you have a ways to go if you want to explain it all away by differences in obesity rates.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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  6. buckeyegator

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    FWIW, right now, from worldometer, the death rate is 1.35%. i would guess alot of current deaths are from the delta, not omicron varriant.
     
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  7. antny1

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    He can hardly elicit an emoji anymore let alone a response. Dude is out there....
     
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  9. surfn1080

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    San Francisco even before vaccines faired very well when it comes deaths. Would be a great study to see how they did that. Younger/thinner population is my theory.
     
  10. antny1

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    First day at testing site in Orlando. 1/2mile or more long line 1 hour before open. 4 lines. Last car finished at 5:10 p.m. Non stop from 830 a.m.

    No idea what the positive rate was so I won't even guess. Will say seemed like almost everyone was vaccinated.

    Sidenote. No way I'm not getting Covid with as many people sneezed and coughed on me. Especially little kids.
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    5 reasons you should not deliberately catch Omicron to 'get it over with' - CNN

    The idea of intentionally trying to catch Omicron is "all the rage," said Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, with an exasperated sigh.

    "It's caught on like wildfire," agreed Dr. Robert Murphy, executive director of the Havey Institute for Global Health at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.

    "And it's widespread, coming from all types of people, the vaccinated and boosted and the anti-vaxxers," he added, with a warning. "You'd be crazy to try to get infected with this. It's like playing with dynamite."

    In case the thought had crossed your mind, here are five reasons why you should not purposely try to catch Omicron.
     
  12. buckeyegator

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  13. pkaib01

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    This coupled with some experts saying "everyone's going to get it" is really causing a problem.

    There is ample reasons to avoid getting getting it. A more comprehensive vaccine could be developed. The Pfizer's antiviral pill will be approved soon. We may reach herd immunity. It may just go away. Why roll the dice if you can maintain caution?

    Lastly, if contracting it is inevitable, I'd rather it be at a time when the hospitals are not packed and therapeutics available.
     
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  14. l_boy

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    Now all of a sudden CA is a model of virtuousness. Previously data was cherry picked to show FL was better than CA, and that oppressive lock downs masking and other measures dont work. Now in the name of trying to make vaccines look worse you are willing to say good things about CA and how their healthiness is the reason for better rates of covid.
     
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  15. PITBOSS

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    link?
     
  16. gogator7444

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    We have loads of testing sites here. The 2 near me? Average line is around 2 miles. They have police & fire at intersection so the line lets cars through. And one is a drive-in theater & the line snakes through the lot (4 screens so large place). A half mile would be great! LOL

    Here the issue is nursing homes now need a negative test within 24 hours so they have to get a rapid then show up to the home for the visit. Only if they're a daily visitor they get to leave & go make a line again for another test. If kids have a runny nose they need an official negative test to return - at home tests aren't allowed. So in our case there's a major spike in testing because, well, NY sucks.
     
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  17. buckeyegator

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    Go to worldometer, multiply number cases by 1.35 to get number of deaths, compare to their figure.
     
  18. surfn1080

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    Could only imagine if Trump said something this ridiculous.

    how this is helpful or going to convince unvaxxed to get it is beyond me I guess.
    Who said that? What does a younger healthier population theory have anything to do with what Cali did?
     
  19. antny1

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    I mean a half a mile was an hour before open at one of several sites. I'll try to find a number for our sites next time I work on Saturday
     
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  20. PITBOSS

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    more bs you’re making up?