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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. RIP

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    We have an appointment for Saturday in Fort Walton Beach. The only test we can access was a rapid home test so I hope they don't require an actual PCR test. Everywhere around me is a week out for testing (which is not helpful in any way).
     
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    I can't say for sure. I haven't worked the antibody clinic for 2 weeks since they cut staffing. Wish I knew for certain.
     
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  3. Tjgators

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    because there is no study on the long term effects. If you know the virus presents very little risk, why would you take the risk of possibly injuring them neurologically or cardiovascularly? If you want to follow the science, you need time to study the medicine. Are you going to put trust in pharmaceutical companies that have settled nearly $100 billion in the last 20 years for fraud, safety violations and false claims? These medicine makers have no liability this go-around. Does that concern you at all?

    Most drugs produce side effects. That's why the commercials sound so ridiculous. Where are those commercials for this vaccine? Why are they not sharing the possible side effects with the public? They are right there in Vaers.com
     
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    I was somehow able to get her in for a rapid antigen test at a local urgent care Friday (just so we have documentation). Thanks for all the info!
     
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  6. gogator7444

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    100% agree that the way numbers are reported is ludicrous.
     
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    Good luck & hope all goes well for you.
     
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  8. Tjgators

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    These sites can't get the regeneron because the Feds are blocking it to the states. FL is trying to bypass the Feds and purchase on their own. I don't understand why they can't, but they have set aside 100's of millions of dollars to purchase once they figure it out. Really sick people are getting screwed and the vaccinated get very sick too. Everyone should want this available. It's a game changer. I would be sick if my mom could not get this after getting all her shots. We should have it available.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    New York Times has 1.433 million cases newly reported.

    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
     
  10. l_boy

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    There are no "long term effects". Whatever vaccines do, they do within first couple of months. There have never in the history of vaccinations been "long term effects". It doesn't even make any sense.

    The world has well over a billion doses. The side effects are known.

    Drugs that have long term effects are ones that are used long term, typically daily for years. You don't take one pill and five years later die of a heart attack.
     
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  12. l_boy

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    Who knows if it works but I'd be tempted to take fluvoxamine and benedryl. I don't know if Fluoxetine (Prozac) can be substituted for fluvoxamine.

    Antidepressants tied to lower COVID-19 death rates

    Two common compounds show effectiveness against COVID-19 virus in early testing
     
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  13. gogator7444

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    Quick caveat...even on the CDC site it says some vaccines such as HPV should not be given to pregnant or nursing mothers due to a "theoretical" risk to the fetus.

    Slightly off subject I suppose but I always figured it was the additives/the combination of vaccines given to a child that may cause issues. If you look at the shot schedule for a baby, it's a lot all at once. I had the peds split all the dosages up, & while that meant more trips, both kids barely even had fevers for their shots, & we were caught up by school.

    Anyway but yes vaccines themselves are generally safe but sometimes the side effects like fevers if high enough can cause issues. Or if there are underlying conditions those can get triggered, like heart issues.
     
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    Not the same- both SSRIs but slight differences. Check with your doctor or pharmacist.

    "Are Luvox and Prozac the Same Thing? Luvox (fluvoxamine) and Prozac (fluoxetine) are selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressants used to treat depression or obsessive-compulsive disorders. Luvox is also used to treat social anxiety disorder (social phobia)."
     
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    If you need pcr, Regency Square mall has a drive up site out on Atlantic Blvd. Just go early!
     
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  16. buckeyegator

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    nyt reported 750,000 for sat/sun combined, worldometer had 1.5 million for those days.
     
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    Viral infections are known to have long term sides effects. Like chickenpox leading to shingles decades later, or measles leading to Subacur sclerosing panencephalitis usually 7 to 10 years after recovery. We don't know what may or may not happen years from now with COVID recovered people. But if there is a post recovery secondary infection, the chances of it happening from the vaccine is much smaller than the cause being the virus.

    The vaccine contains a single mRNA strand found within the virus' genetic code, plus some organics. The entire vaccine breaks down within hours of injection, and is gone from the body within hours.

    The virus, on the other hand, if it infects a person, not only contains the Sama mRNA strand, but a full viral genome. The virus also makes millions of copies of itself in an infected person, and stays in the body for days.

    The risk of long term sides effects from the vaccine is significantly smaller than the risk from the virus itself. Short term, the risk from the virus is also greater. Hence the number of unvaccinated in the hospital versus vaccinated.
     
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  18. buckeyegator

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    to me that is dishonest, mis-leading, and fear-mongering, making the public believe things are much worse than they are.other site were much more in linev with what worldometer reported, so a huge grain of salt is needed when viewing any nyt report.
     
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    This is all plainly obvious to the 3-digit IQ crowd. Not so much for Western Journal readers and Pizzagate believers.
     
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    Yes there are known side effects with all vaccines but when they happen they happen in relative short order after the shot. People keep saying that unknown side effects may pop years later. That's never happened before and makes little sense.

    In terms of a pregnant woman, yes I guess you wouldn't know of any side effects to the fetus until after birth and thst may not be obvious. But typically vaccine side effects will be in the same ballpark of side effects of the actual disease.

    As to myocarditis that is a known rare side effect but it happens shortly after, not years later. Myocarditis is also a side effect of covid, and appears to be more likely to get with covid than the vaccine. So by not vaccinating you still have a myocarditis risk from actual covid.

    As to spacing out vaccines some do that because of the fear that too many vaccines at once may be harmful - this came about due to false associations of vaccines and autism. I don't think there is any evidence that it is beneficial to space them out, but I can see the desire to do so.
     
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