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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    I can read. Can you? From the link:

    We considered both randomised controlled trials and non-randomised studies eligible for inclusion in this review. [Emphasis added]
     
  2. dangolegators

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    Yeah, natural immunity wears off, or weakens over time. You actually think it doesn't?
     
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    It’s well proven T and B cells last for many years. It’s why they are known as memory cells.
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    It's well proven than immunity weakens over time too.
     
  5. gator95

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    No I didn’t read what you posted. You post garbage stuff 95% of the time. Sorry, that’s on you for always posting crap. I posted a large study. Tough luck. Better luck next time scaring people.
     
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  6. gator95

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    Compared to vaccines, it’s at least double maybe longer. Hell, the drug companies almost admit it that they don’t work for a long period of time at all.
     
  7. surfn1080

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    Antibodies do yes. That is just one part of our immune system. If that is all we depended on, we would be in serious trouble.

    Age also has a factor but I'm hoping you are not relating to what we are talking about to that since obviously, a 75 year will have a weaker immune system.
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    So you accuse me of not reading, then admit you are the one who doesn't read. Talk about a self own. Good job!

    Not surprised. You read only things that confirm your preconceived outcomes and ignore all scientific data that refutes your opinion. Think all 11 studies listed by the National Library of Medicine that looked at long haul COVID are all junk because of the one French study that doesn't even say what you think it says?

    You have zero intellectual curiosity, and consider anything that doesn't confirm your bias to be crap. That's not how science works. That's now how anything should work.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    Here's some more info on the National Library of Medicine, in case anyone isn't familiar.

    The National Library of Medicine is the world’s largest biomedical library and a leader in research in computational health informatics. NLM plays a pivotal role in translating biomedical research into practice. NLM’s research and information services support scientific discovery, health care, and public health. NLM pioneers new ways to make biomedical data and information more accessible; builds tools for better data management and personal health; and helps create a more diverse and data-skilled workforce. NLM enables researchers, clinicians, and the public to use the vast wealth of biomedical data to improve health.
    But remember, I posted the link. So according to @gator95, it's crap.
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    75% of those who were vaccinated and died of covid had at least 4 comorbidities.

    From the article:
     
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  12. gatordavisl

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    Haven't you expressed this sentiment enough? It seems apparent that everyone is going to face omicron. I'll take my chances with the vaccinated. And I doubt Covid positive folks are being forced to work. If these workers should get vaccinated as you claim, well that's also good enough for me. Get their a$$es vaccinated or get the hell out.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Sadly, it means fewer dead Americans will have gone to heaven ...

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  14. l_boy

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    Yeah that happens with vaccines too. That's why protection against infection wanes but protection agsinst severe disease is more durable.
     
  15. l_boy

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    I too have wasted untold energy engaging him. It just isn't worth it. Anybody that has such unwavering advocacy of often incorrect positions isn't worth the effort. It is just bait. He just feeds on people arguing with him. Best to deprive him of the oxygen.
     
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  16. flgator2

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    As most of you know, my family and I have not been vaccinated, but had covid in Nov. 2020, We had two breakthrough cases in my family, my wife and 1 of my sons. My son had chills for about a half of day and a sore throat, after the 3rd day he felt normal. My wife just tested positive on Sunday, some body aches, fatigue and sore throat. Neither of them has required medical treatment. So, the natural immunity does wear off or with this strain it protected them pretty well, like or better than the vaccine does.
    I know of at least 10 others who also caught covid in the past 2 weeks half were fully vaccinated and the other were not (never had covid). They experienced the same symptoms and recovered quickly without medical treatments. Most fully recovered between 3 to 5 days
    I still feel without any doubt that natural immunity is far better than the vaccines
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Intense arguments about quaint concepts such as immunity and vaccine efficacy.
     
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    After COVID-positive staff work amid shortage, hospital sees outbreak of infections

    COVID positive health care workers called into work in Rhode Island | WPRI.com

    North Dakota says health workers with COVID-19 who don't show symptoms can keep working

    COVID-positive nurses say they're being pressured to work while sick, and they're petrified of infecting patients

    End Biden vaccine mandate: Nurses shouldn't be forced to vaccinate

    Etc. You're welcome to put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say.
     
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