Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

People on the left are fascinated with the bureaucrat Fauci. He's a HollyWeird Star. Everyone else thinks he is a fraud and really bad at his job. That's not fascination professor.

So, DeltaCron does not scare you? That means FluRona probably does not either. How about FluRonaCron?

 

You guys don't trust a source entitled viroLIEgy?

 

We don't have the kind of pseudo sexual fascinations with public figures the right does. Fauci is just a doctor and a scientist that works for the government. To right wing dimwits, he is some kind of black hat because that's how they roll.

 

I don’t know if anyone can answer this, but thinking about the things we do now that will affect us decades from now has me thinking about the long term affects of covid. I’m wondering if down the road the survivors of covid might suffer from cancers of the respiratory and circulatory systems. If not cancers could there be other covid related ailments in the future for these people?

 

Because making Covid positive, symptomatic workers come in is oh so much better? If PPE is good enough to have hospitals claim it's safe for those workers to come in, then it's good enough to allow the others to work. Otherwise it's beyond hypocritical.

And yes, they should get vaccinated. Firing them & creating shortages & endangering patients is ridiculous.

 

An increased need for dialysis, lots of kidney damage among covid patients.

 

At the rate medical science is going we will be cloning and installing kidneys on a regular basis.

 

Who knows. I’d imagine those that survived with lung damage would have an assortment of issues.

Not sure there is any basis to believe that merely having a mild form of it would lead to anything.

 

Why do you need to be vaccinated IF you've already had covid? Hint, you don't have to. It's helpful but it's not a reason to fire someone, especially when most places are short staffed. But I do love the "natural immunity isn't as good as the vaccine" crowd is still around. Just a few people left on that sinking ship. I admire you going down with the ship though. Stick to those guns!

 

I will agree with you on this. Allowing people to work with Covid is irresponsible. If we are going to do that , then may as well let the knuckle draggers work too, within specific parameters.

While I think mandating vaccines is a very reasonable requirement, at this point with omicron the argument isn't as strong since protection against infection is much less than with previous variants.

Where staffing needs are critical I'd support a temporary waiver of the requirements. I wouldnt get rid of the requirement.

 

Yeah I guess, but I’ll bet Michael Douglas didn’t think he’d get throat cancer from having oral sex with an HPV positive person either.

 

Yeah, we haven't had a "long covid" thread in a while, so have at it. Since we know "long covid" doesn't exist, maybe we can see if "really, really long covid" exists in 5-10 years...

 

Yes, I had that one in mind - cervical cancer on women is also linked to HPV virus.

Not sure how all that works exactly, but I assume it’s long term active infection that eventually leads to increased risk of cancer? Some viruses keep replicating in the body longer term, whereas coronaviruses (even covid) no longer replicate as an active infection after a number of days (esp. those who have mild symptoms and quickly clear the virus).

 

I’m curious what the relationship will prove to be between the severity of an initial COVID infection and the presence of long term effects from the virus. For example, is someone who contracts COVID and have “long COVID” symptoms or a severe but not fatal case more likely to develop long term (as in life long) effects than someone who has a mild case, or are those the same? Obviously, we aren’t at the point where that data exists, but it’s certainly a question that I’d like to know the answer.

 

I suppose my question isn’t necessarily about an active virus, but the long term effects from damage caused by the initial infection.

 

So far the most long lasting side effects come from the vaccines...

But I wonder if any kind of flu or sars-covid2 have long lasting side effects. I highly doubt it..

66, You post like someone that used to post here in the past.

 

For his next trick, Rick will be advocating drinking urine.

 

calling people you disagree with you in regards to vaccine knuckle draggers is insulting and you need to stop being so hateful towards people who do not share your point of view.

 

Long haul COVID certainly exists, but for most, it's just one lingering effect, like a cough for a few weeks after full recovery. Symptoms like this are not uncommon with rhinoviruses or other coronaviruses that cause colds. The prevalence of serious long haul is lower, but there are those who do suffer from shortness of breath, brain fog, and other symptoms for weeks, if not months after recover.

What is yet unknown is if there is any significant, post-COVID disease caused by the virus. Some examples are other viruses causing secondary diseases years after recover are shingles after chicken pox or Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) after measles. The measles vaccine has all but eliminated SSPE in the US, and although more study is needed, it looks like the chickenpox vaccine helps prevents shingles.

Last, to suggest the vaccine is more dangerous than the actual disease is silly. The vaccine contains an mRNA strand found in the virus, plus some organic materials that all break down within hours of injection. The virus, if it infects a person, makes millions of copies of itself before it is completely gone. And, there is evidence that viral particles can remain in some people, that can cause inflammation, which is a theory as to why some people have long haul symptoms.

 

I'd also add that in all honesty until they get something more effective than the equivalent of the flu shot it shouldn't be mandated. But at least a waiver may be helpful to those who are pregnant/hesitant/have just had Covid & wanted to wait longer to get vaccinated.

And before someone mentions it's safe in pregnancy, there are a number of foods, OTC meds/supplements & prescriptions that are perfectly safe that pregnant/nursing moms are discouraged from eating/taking.