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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    yet how many games worldwide have been cancelled, how many leagues shutting down despite athletes being fully vaccinated and mask-wearing?again, if those 2 were all it took to stop the spread, what is wrong?
     
  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    vaccines are our best tool to fight this.
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    There are no absolutes, but there is risk mitigation. Short term, the vaccine is low risk, and lowers the risk from getting COVID. Long term, not enough time to tell, but odds are a vaccine that completely breaks down within hours of injection will have no risk, versus a virus that replicates itself millions of times and hangs around for a while.

    Simply put, want to mitigate your risk? Get vaccinated. Also has the benefit of lowering the risk for others. And what does it cost you? A trip to Walgreens a couple of times.
     
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  4. AzCatFan

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    No leagues have shut down long term since the vaccine. Most vaccinated athletes are back playing within a week or two. The vaccine isn't perfect, but we can't let perfect be the enemy of good. And what works better against COVID than the vaccine?
     
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  5. buckeyegator

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    here is a question. how many people who get the flu shot end up getting the flu versus how many fully vaccinated covid people end up getting it? which vaccine works better at what it is suppose to prevent?
     
  6. mdgator05

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    Aren't you usually complaining how people don't want to work and about how many job openings there are? Now too many people are losing their jobs? Also, suicides are down (although they may increase in the future if they follow typical patterns).

    The pandemic didn't increase suicides. That shouldn't be a surprise
     
  7. buckeyegator

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    how long has the nhl been down? soccer leagues in europe, especially in the uk are struggling to play matches, the epl managers pressed to shut down for 2 weeks, so if highly fit athletes are still getting covid what does that say about the fully vaccinated ordinary individual?
     
  8. AzCatFan

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    Flu shots reduce the risk of getting the flu between 40% and 60% every year. It depends on the dominant strains of the flu. Health experts can only take educated guesses and create a vaccine based on those gusses. Get the wrong, and the flu shot becomes less effective in stopping someone from getting sick. But one benefit of a flu shot is even those with a breakthrough case often have a very mild case of the flu.
     
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  9. buckeyegator

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    there is a world of difference between hard working people losing their jobs and businesses due to shutdowns and fully vaccinated employees who are not allowed to work and people who don't want to work, or think they are better than they are and deserve more pay and thus don't take jobs that 2 years ago they would have.
     
  10. buckeyegator

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    so has the covid vaccine got it right, do we have numbers on fully vaccinated getting it yet?
     
  11. AzCatFan

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    NHL will be shut down for a few weeks. EPL has postponed a few matches, but are playing a full schedule.

    The vaccine is doing what it's supposed to do. Reducing the number of overall cases and reducing the severity of the disease in those with a breakthrough case. Does anything we currently have work better? If not, then stop making perfect the enemy of good.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    So if a person thinks they deserve more pay, they aren't hard working? Basically, you just want to classify everybody neatly into boxes so that you can complain about everything.
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    NHL is playing again tonight. Go Lightning!
     
  14. buckeyegator

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    does a mcdonalds fry cook who thinks he deserves as much pay as a doctor or lawyer working hard, maybe, but his limitations set his pay standard.
     
  15. buckeyegator

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    we agree on this....
     
  16. mdgator05

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    No, the market sets pay standards. If people don't want to cook fries for $8, the market has spoken and that job needs to be higher wage. But, like I said, you want to complain about this no matter what happens. If a person gets lower wages, you complain the economy is terrible. If a person gets higher wages, you complain that they shouldn't.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    and how many people have to spend time reading posts like this . . . oh the humanity
     
  18. buckeyegator

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    it's call blocking if you want, but guess you only want sugar-coated news.
     
  19. gatordavisl

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    Still trying to compare Covid to the flu? Goodness gracious . . .
     
  20. buckeyegator

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    no, am trying to see how effective both vaccines are to what they are suppose to do.