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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. l_boy

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    Overall the number terminated due to lack of vaccine is about 1%

    How many employees have hospitals lost to vaccine mandates? Here are the numbers so far


    Now there may very well be a labor shortage but that could be all kinds of things. Some health care workers have decided it just isn't worth the risk and stress to be doing those jobs during a pandemic.

    Why Health-Care Workers Are Quitting in Droves

    This says 1 in 5 have left their job. Who knows if that is a real number but it likely is substantial, and has little to do with vaccine hesitancy.
     
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    Here is the kicker for this story: He willingly flew to a country where there are no treatments for COVID and tragically died there.

     
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  4. ncargat1

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    Not US specifically, but very, very interesting data from S Africa concerning the latest variant of interest and lack of hospitalizations in S Africa:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/17/covid-omicron-south-africa-vaccinations/
     
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  5. NavyGator93

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    We are having a nice spike where I live in Georgia, a run of cases through our High School these past few weeks. Most of the kids that are sick weren't vaccinated but one of them (my son's closest friend) was vaxxed. She is healthy and it presented in her like a cold for a day and then fine, still quarantined though. She exposed my son but he seems fine. He is quarantined until he can test but I think he prefers that (he can still run the trails next to our house)

    Wife was really sick a few days ago (we had to cancel a trip). We assumed it wasn't covid and we were correct, just some wicked crud. As a sub in special needs classes, she gets all sorts of exposure unfortunately.
     
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    He lived free and died free. He knowingly assumed the risk. And his leadership was dangerous to others who follows his lead. Like all the others like him. Doubtful it will move the needle much. Like all the others. The best advice on this board is to “Booster Up” from a poster who uses the phrase mockingly.
     
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  9. duchen

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    Spiking in a lot of places. Starting in the cities and will move around. Omicron is here.
     
  10. NavyGator93

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    From what I understand, this isn't Omicron in GA. Very few cases here, just Delta having a reemergence post holiday. With our low vaccination rate and most people not even taking the most basic precautions, when Omicron gets here it will be ugly.
     
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  11. duchen

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    The South African doctors theorize it mutated in someone with HIC which trained it to avoid immunity. The good news seems to be that the vacccinated get milder cases. Anecdotally, I know someone who was on a respirator in March 2020 for several months. and got it again. Got the monoclonals after testing and was fine. We have the tools
     
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  12. duchen

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    We don’t sequence enough here to have definitive answers. But, we are seeing a dramatic increase in South Florida after an international festival. Delta pretty much blew through Florida and we have a high vaccination rate here. So, Omicron is here. If not there, it will get there. Glad to be protected!
     
  13. MaceoP

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    Pfizer / Moderna are theorizing that the T cell immunity is not significantly reduced by the variant, hence with 2 to 3 doses protection from severe disease should remain, although you can still get omicron. All these studies are about antibody titers.
     
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    SNL makes heavy adjustments.

    'SNL' goes without an audience and airs pre-taped sketches due to rising Covid-19 cases


    Tonight everyone at 'Saturday Night Live' planned to do our big Christmas show ... but Covid came early this year," Hanks said.
    Hanks continued, "In the interest of safety, we do not have an audience."

    "And we sent home our cast, most of our crew, but I came here from California," he said. "And if you think I was going to fly 3,000 miles and not be on TV, well, you have another thing coming."

    Hanks -- who was wearing a robe with the number "5" emblazoned on it to celebrate inducting host Paul Rudd into "The Five Timers Club," which is reserved for celebrities who have hosted five times -- then brought out Tina Fey.
     
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    I wonder if a) he was vaccinated and b) if this was a business or pleasure trip.
     
  18. l_boy

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    So Denmark has population of 6 million. 105,000 infected through December. Back out recent 20,000 in this survey and you had 80,000. 1.33% infected cumulatively. 90% of entire population vaccinated.

    Denmark: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

    Of the reinfections, with Delta, about 1% of cases has prior immunity. Vs 1.33% of population with prior infection. At face value that is pretty modest protection.

    Of the reinfections, with Omicron, 5% of Omicron infections were previously infected. Compared to 1.33% of population previously infected. On face value that would mean previously infected increased your chance of getting Omicron. Of course that doesn't make sense, I suspect the actual percent of infected is higher than 1.33%. The point being there is nothing in this evidence thst shows natural immunity helps against Omicron.

    Looked at another way, natural immunity with Omicron had 4 times the rate of reinfection as Delta.

    As to vaccinations, with Delta again 90% vaxxed. About 50% fully vaxxed and 40% not vaxxed. So 10% of population (unvaccinated) had 40% of infections. So being fully vaxxed offers substantial protection vs Delta infection.

    As to Omicron the protection is less. 10% of population, unvaccinated, had about 15% of the cases.
     
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    He was anti mandate but I haven't seen anything stating he was specifically anti vax. An article stated it was unknown if he was vaccinated.

    He was traveling and monoclonal antibody treatments were not available. I guess that is a caution of traveling.
     
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