What makes you think I don't like the guy? We just disagree on whether or not he can turn things around given the situation. As an example, I referenced his probable inability to attract free agents and his poor drafting. That's called arguing a point. Feel free to try it instead of coping out and saying "you just don't like Urban!!!"
You said he should never have been hired and used the lack of success in 13 games as evidence to support your opinion. I’m saying 13 games is not enough time to come to anything conclusive. Now if you said his off the field issues were too much for ownership to wrangle, then that would be a more valid reason, especially coupled with the lack of success on the field. At that point, it would be a discussion of is he doing anything above and beyond other coaches or is there a deliberate attempt to attack his character. I’m sure he’s pissed enough people off to say there’s a good chance at the latter.
That means I don't like the guy and wanted him to fail? As I've already pointed out, one of the biggest issues from the last regime was player relations. Bringing in a guy with zero experience in coaching NFL guys after that situation was a big gamble and that's why I wasn't a fan of the move. That said, I still supported the Jags and Urban but there comes a point where you have to learn from past mistakes and look at the current trajectory. You can claim I'm anti-Meyer or whatever but it's pretty easy to discern the posters in this thread who follow the Jaguars from the fly-by commentators. ETA - Oh, and I never actually cited his lack of success in 13 games as evidence of anything.
An NFL football team has to have a locker room that is all bought into winning. Not an easy thing to do when you have massive pay disparities among players, and players making millions on guaranteed contracts that can and will tune out if a locker room starts to splinter. Meyer entered a locker room that was a dumpster fire and poured gasoline on it. Maybe, given time, Meyer might have turned the ship around. But the first thing you do when you are in a hole to get out is stop digging. Meyer kept on digging and digging, and just made things worse. Kingsbury with the Cardinals also got off to a rocky start. But Kingsbury made one smart move by hiring Vance Joseph as his defensive coordinator. Joseph not only had years of experience as a D-coordinator in the NFL, but was also the Head Coach at Denver. Kingsbury has stated he's leaned on Joseph's experience while navigating the League several times, especially the first two years. Kingsbury's seat was warm entering this year. And despite being 10-3, it's still not completely cool. Kingsbury teams tend to fade at the end of the year, and another bad finish for the Cards will give fodder to those who aren't Kingsbury fans. This past Monday night has already has already started some of the chatter. NFL often stands for Not For Long, for both players and coaches. If you win, maybe they will overlook a few transgressions off the field. If you lose, forget it. You'll be shown the door before it hits you on the way out. Meyer had more than a few transgressions, and didn't win.
Yep. I’m busy using the Ignore button on most of these yahoos. I come to swamp gas to get away from Too Hot stuff
Probably because he’s under contract and their season is still going. I understand where your question comes from, but it wouldn’t look good to just walk out on your current team.
When you have a high position such a NFL coach, you are responsible for not just your public image but also of the image of your employer and the NFL too. Being under the influence is bad. Also, have a strange woman grind her body on you is bad too. As for keeping it private, the higher up you are in life, the harder it is to keep that stuff out of sight. The best thing to do is not put yourself in the position of being outed. In this case Meyer outed himself.
If CBN pulls in Tosh - They should declare "hang-over" day in Hogtown and open all the bars to unlimited free shots...........
