Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,804
    861
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007

    If they had a quarter of their it's students out in early September, then that's the school board following an dumb rule where you quarantine everyone. That doesn't mean kids had covid. Just a stupid way that should've been altered. Don't need to quarantine healthy kids. Treat covid like the flu. If you are sick, stay home. If someone in your family or someone you spend a lot of time near tests positive, go get a test. Simple as that.
     
  2. WestCoastGator

    WestCoastGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,491
    116
    273
    Apr 12, 2007
    No, no no! This thing was not engineered, but very well might have leaked from the Wuhan lab. Get your facts straight!
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  3. WESGATORS

    WESGATORS Moderator VIP Member

    22,533
    1,367
    2,008
    Apr 3, 2007
    I can't speak to how other districts manage their information, but ACPS (SBAC) has done a fine job of tracking case data:

    COVID Response & Recovery / COVID Dashboard

    From this link, I can select any school and see the weekly distribution going back to the previous school calendar year (for each of staff and students).

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,730
    1,789
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    I can see cases by school and date, but not quarantined students. Did you find a place on their dashborad to see quarantined students by school and date?

    I do like that it shows the cumulative numbers, St Johns doesn't show that anywhere that I could find, Marion doesn't show any school level data at all, other than a list of schools with at least one student or employee who tested postive during the week.
     
  5. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,804
    861
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    Why do you care about quarantined students? Don't understand the fascination that line of thinking.
     
  6. Potzer01

    Potzer01 GC Hall of Fame

    3,186
    102
    373
    Mar 26, 2008
    Orlando.... Again
    Sadly its time to move on. The pandemic is finished, we lost. Its Endemic now.

    Its time to decide on the conditions for living the rest of our lives.
     
  7. WESGATORS

    WESGATORS Moderator VIP Member

    22,533
    1,367
    2,008
    Apr 3, 2007
    That information is subject to sunshine law, so it is available upon request, but I don't see that it is included in the dashboard.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  8. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,730
    1,789
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Because they aren't in school? When you have that many students out all at once (and a significant number of teachers out as well), nothing works right. It doesn't matter why they are out, only that so many of them aren't there.
     
  9. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    12,140
    1,152
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Hindsight is always 20/20. We know so much more today than we did March, 2020 about COVID-19. For example, most cases are spread by airborne particles, and not by surface contact like the flu, which is often spread when someone touches a door handle, cup, or something else an infected person touched. We also know now that kids weren't big spreaders of the wild type of COVID. And had we known these things in March, 2020, then we may have made different decisions regarding school closures. But using what we did know in March, 2020, it was the right decision to be cautious.

    Voluntary shut downs would have done nothing. Too many people who thought COVID was a hoax, and too many business owners who wouldn't have followed recommendations. Business owners that did shut down would have likely not stayed shut too long, because they wouldn't be able to afford it. This would have lead to a COVID outbreak like they saw in the early days in Italy. If you remember correctly, at first, Italy just treated COVID as another flu, and took zero precautions, shutting down nothing. Then the country got hit hard. Really hard, creating a true panic. By being more precautious and shutting down a few things here, we, for the most part, avoided that level of panic.

    Global pandemics are a no win scenario. Either you shut down and have people complain you went too far. Or you don't shut down, like Italy, and have people complaining you didn't take the pandemic serious enough as the bodies in the morgues start piling up. Crazy thing, even after millions worldwide and 800,000 dead in the US alone, there are still people who don't take this virus seriously.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  10. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,730
    1,789
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    It is so frustrating to see people wiping down everything a year after we know that fomite transmission isn't a thing with covid. So much panic in the early days about how the virus could stay alive for days on various surfaces, but not nearly as much attention paid to the fact that the virus on surfaces is not a significant risk.
     
  11. WestCoastGator

    WestCoastGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,491
    116
    273
    Apr 12, 2007
    Incredible, right? And mask mandates for the vaccinated are almost as stupid!
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Tjgators

    Tjgators Premium Member

    5,055
    627
    358
    Apr 3, 2007
    Not many people are anti-vax. Many are Rona vax hesitant though. This adds to the hesitancy :

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that of the 43 COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variants, 34 people were fully vaccinated. Of those fully vaccinated, 14 people had received their booster shots but five of those received their additional shots less than 14 days.

    This ties in with a study in Israel.

    A recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine and conducted in Israel found that the immunity against the delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 waned in all age groups a few months after receipt of the second dose of vaccine. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114228

    And even the evil Fraudci has admitted the waning immunity and will be throwing a booster party in a city near you. Pfizer gonna make some money from all those parties.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    16,051
    2,067
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Lots of people are anti-vaccine. At this point, 83% of the still unvaccinated do not plan to get the shot. Hesitancy, if we were using the real definition of the word versus just a re-framing of anti-vaccine activity, would mean that somebody plans to get the shot, but won't do so now because of some concern. If you do not plan to get the shot at all, you are anti-vaccine, not hesitant.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/10/cnb...nvaccinated-americans-to-get-covid-shots.html
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  14. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,941
    1,731
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    But you had certain governors in FL and TX that were making it illegal to shutdown.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,941
    1,731
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    People are anti vax or vaccine hesitant because they want to be so. For instance, you only cherry picked some select facts about infection, even though there is much more robust information otherwise, and the evidence regarding protection against serious illness is even stronger. If you were open minded, you would mentioned that. But you didn't for only reasons that you can know.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,804
    861
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    I agree a lot of adults who are vaccine hesitant is because they want to be. My feeling on them is who cares. If they die, it's their choice, like doing hard drugs. Since covid spreads just as easy whether you have the vaccine or not, i don't know why everyone cares. Kids on the other hand is totally different story. We should still be encouraging all adults to get vaccinated unless they know for sure they previously had covid.
     
  17. PITBOSS

    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

    7,821
    821
    558
    Apr 13, 2007
    Yes but they could keep you alive…..

    “The two-shot Pfizer course may offer 70% protection against being hospitalized with the variant that is driving the country’s fourth wave of infections, “

    Pfizer Stops 70% Omicron Hospitalizations in South Africa Study
     
  18. PITBOSS

    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

    7,821
    821
    558
    Apr 13, 2007

    Who posts comments like this?!?!?
     
  19. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    7,804
    861
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    What's the big deal? Do you think me saying people who eat like shit will most likely die an early death? I can't stop them. You can't stop them. Let's deal in reality.
     
  20. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    5,195
    450
    293
    Jun 1, 2007
    LOL, they only get giddy if it's a suspected trump loving anti vaxxer.
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2021