Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Do you have evidence that no healthy kids dont end up in the hospital?

 

I was responding to someone trying to make a nonsensical argument. That is all.

 

Seemingly ridiculously low (particularly when you're able to rule out known risk factors), that's why parents don't feel compelled to vaccinate their children.

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Covid for kids is a big nothing burger, just a way to make big pharma a butt load more money.

 

Probably should do away with bath time and car rides wile you're at it.

 

We've reached herd immunity with MMR vaccination rates with over 95% vaccination rates around the countries, with some states as high as 99.4%. If we were to reach these rates with the COVID vaccine, and the number of cases nation wide were in the hundreds a year, not thousands per week, there would be no need to get tested.

 

Yes. A vaccine with a proven track record that actually works after two doses. Key factors.

A lot of good news on the Covid front if you stay away from the fear crowd. Omicron seems to be much less dangerous. Could end up not the case. But let’s hope not. Which means it may finally end the hysteria. That said…the hysteria should have already ended yet we have people scared out of their minds still.

None of that is dismissive of reality. This is a terrible virus. But we have to deal with it in reality. Not fear.

 

How effective is the mumps vaccine after two doses?

How effective is the polio vaccine after two doses?

 

You know the data…

 

MMR efficacy, two does, about 97% against measles and 88% against the mumps. For measles, we need about 95% vaccination rates to reach herd immunity. It's estimated, we need 90% for COVID. We'll likely never know, because we'll never reach that level.

And yes, so far, Omicron has been good news. More contagious yes, but also not as dangerous. If Omicron can become the dominant strain, then COVID because like other coronaviruses, and just causes a common cold. And that's not a bad thing at all.

 

I do, which makes me wonder why you keep trying to characterize it as perfect.

I was hopeful that presenting it as a question would get you to look it up yourself rather than reject the knowledge because of who brought it to your attention.

 

I have characterized it as nearly perfect. Unlike these new drugs that are more potential therapeutics. But carry on…

 

I'm sure the CDC has it but won't release it. Wonder why. Considering we are talking risk of a child being hospitalized with covid is around .3 per million and we know that close to 50% of those children hospitalized "with" covid aren't actually in the hospital for covid, they just tested positive. So yeah, those numbers of healthy kids being hospitalized will be near zero. Flu is a greater risk. Not hard to see the data in front of you unless you have blinders on...

 

88% is nearly perfect? I wish you were teaching more of my classes.

 

You let us know when we have a real issue with mmr…

 

You still seem to not understand the difference is disease incubation period, 4 days for Delta covid and 10-14 days for mumps, measles etc. If covid took 10+ days to incubate the covid vaccine would *seem* more effective against infection long term.

 

The NFL with almost 95% player and almost 100% personnel vaccination rates…just had its highest Covid single day positive tests on Monday.

Report: NFL records highest number of single-day positive COVID-19 tests since pandemic began

The dumb thing here is that these players are at almost no risk. And some (nfl/interesting they avoided adding the players) want to implement more mandates for the vaccines.

 

Anti-Vaccine Decision-Making and Measles Resurgence in the United States

 

You still don't understand the purpose of vaccinations.

 

We don't have issues with Measles because that vaccine is mandated. Anytime the measles vaccination rate dips below 95%, you get outbreaks. New York had one in 2019. California had it in 2014-2015. About 1/3 of the cases were breakthroughs. After outbreaks, states tightened the requirements. Notably, this didn't become a big cause for people such as yourself. You only decided mandates were evil when it wasn't hippies in California spreading around Measles that were the issue.