Rutgers, who had just lost to Illinois by 35 points, beat Purdue tonite. Wow. Purdue had looked pretty close to unbeatable, imo.
Wow! What a shot! Much more difficult than Appleby's game winner. I agree that Purdue looked like the best team in the country prior to this game. Shows that every team needs to bring it every night. I'm from NJ and will say the RAC is a tough place to play. Very very loud. Purdue is still going to win a lot of games, but i think it shows that this year might be the most open NCAA tournament i can remember. I really don't see any dominant teams. Very good ones, but not one that stands above the rest imo.
Rutgers at home is crazy good. Year after year, it’s really kind of weird. But I think the dude who called the game is the same one who called our OSU game. So He’s having quite a year.
I said that when we lost to TXSO and I got 30 posts directed at me with stats from 175 years of college basketball claiming that the UF loss was the only upset in NCAA basketball history.
a power 5 team pulling off a home win over another P5 team is hardly that memorable, even if it was against a number 1. Especially one who has historically good at home as Rutgers is. And Rutgers’ RPI is only 10 spots lower than ours right now. TS’s RPi was in the 240’s before our game, it went up 113 spots after the win. Ours fell around 100 spots. People can dress up that loss anyway they want, but as of today it’s the biggest upset of the year in College Basketball.
The magnitude of upset is clearly different. UF was about #15 (probably higher) vs. #240 TXs . . . a 225 place difference. Purdue is #2 and Rutgers #93 . . . a 91 place difference. Nobody is diminishing the great upset that Rutgers achieved. They're saying that our blowout loss to #240 was more of an upset.
I’m not saying it’s nothing, but it isn’t in the same space as our loss. Rutgers was a 13.5 point dog. TS was 23.5. To convert that to win percentages, Rutgers had an 8.57 percent chance to win roughly (or one in 12 or so), TS had a .9 percent chance, or around 1/110. Rutgers was about 9 times more likely to win than TS. College Basketball Point Spread to Moneyline Conversion Chart
Our loss to TXSO is like when a person goes to McDonald's and orders two Big Mac combos, a 20 piece box of McNuggets and three apple pies. Purdue's loss to Rutgers is the same, but substituting the regular Cokes for Diet Cokes. One is worse, but they are still terrible.
Are we solving differential equations or watching basketball? You can't just analyze basketball in a spreadsheet and call it a day. Nothing interests me less in sports discussions than arguments like this.
You can’t argue that the losses are comparable and then ignore the statistical odds on the losses because you don’t like what they say. Or claim it’s boring. None of it in either direction changes the loss regardless, and part of me admires you for continuing to defend White in the face of the torrent around here. But whatever, time for bed anyway.
I'm not defending Coach White, per se. I'm defending common sense. Numbers are one thing,but what do your eyes say?
Does it matter that one is more shocking (Florida) than the other? I'd say no. Any presumption that it does moves in the direction of a college football take on a college basketball game. That's rarely a good thing, no matter how buttressed by stats, odds, analytics, etc. Things happen, things fall apart, game ends, play the next game, sharpen chemistry, improve focus.
