Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

New York is projected to just about catch up to FLORIDA in total deaths. So I don't have an answer for how and why the numbers fluctuate the way they do:

New York as of 11/24: 57,157
New York projected 1/1/22: 58,920 (+1763 - from today)
New York projected 3/1/22: 62,859 (+5702 - from today)

COVID-19 (healthdata.org)

FLORIDA as of 11/24: 61,117
FLORIDA projected 1/1/22: 62,343 (+1226 - from today)
FLORIDA projected 3/1/22: 63,811 (+1468 - from today)

COVID-19 (healthdata.org)

We can't use the argument of "let it run rampant through FLORIDA" without recognizing that it has already run rampant through New York. Two states seemingly equal in that regard. But NY has the higher vaccination percentage.

Thoughts?

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well i guess we just have to wait say 3-6 months to see who is right, don't we? crow will be on the menu then.

 

Would love to see the breakdown by age groups. Any idea how they calculate these numbers?

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That is an intermediate step in the calculation. You calculate the death rates by age group and then standardize based on an average age distribution.

 

time for the cheap shot, cuomo not sending infected patients into florida assisted living facilities, been awhile since my last cuomo shot.

 

I guess it would be interesting to see the numbers broken down by vaccination percent for an age group and impact on death rate (or even hospitalization rate). I would imagine you'd see less variance in children and a huge variance in the elderly. That's the kind of data that I think could be extremely motivational for older/unhealthy folks to get vaccinated. Just my opinion.

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new york cases jump 28% over last week, positivity rate highest since april,guess the vaccine rate, masks, and closures sure are working, maybe desantis should try them here in florida.got this from yahoo front page.

 

You didn't answer the question. I said 'fewer people are dying in NY than in FL since the vaccine became widely available. Why do you think that is?'. As you well know, NY had a huge number of deaths in the first couple of months of the pandemic when no vaccines were available. Since vaccines have become widely available, Florida has had about twice as many covid deaths as NY. Why do you think that is?

 

at what date do you determine when vaccine became widely available, january, march, july, when so we can compare?

 

What about 6-9 months? 9-12 months? You seem to be treating this as static, not the dynamic phenomenon that it is.

 

seems to me the waves as you call them come about 3 or 4 months apart, so a 3-6 month future check does not seem out of hand.

 

you seem to believe florida is on the down side of a wave that will once again rise, i say 6 months of downward results proves it will not.

 

It's not. My point is that there's a good chance that we'll continue to experience multiple waves given the high numbers of people that are still unvaccinated and that given the nature of infectious disease, it's unlikely that we'll eradicate it anytime soon, if at all.

 

i agree it most likely will never go away, it is just some refuse to believe how florida now is working on it will continue to be a success, like they are rooting for desantis's policies to fail, imo, because he is a republican. don't remember overwhelming criticism of pervert cuomo's way, after all, he got a book deal and emmy for how he did it, strange, nerw york is still behind florida

 

Let's say Jan 1 2021. At that time only a very small percentage of the country had been vaccinated.

 

Totally bogus. Another rightwing wacko lie.
Fact Check: Japan Has Not Ditched COVID Vaccines For Ivermectin They have zero shame and sadly the same level of credibility. But then it could be the worldwide conspiracy in action as well. SMH

 

come to florida, we are at the bottom of the new cases, maskless, non-closed stores, who knew.

 

Wait, so you are blaming the massive spike in Florida on tourists then telling people to come be tourists?