Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Interesting, I'll see if I can find hospitalizations per county with a timeline factor.

FLORIDA has 19 counties with a vaccination rate (5+) of less than 50%. The total population of these 19 counties represents approximately 2.5% of FLORIDA's total population.

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The issue with hospitalization rates per county is that it assumes cases from counties stay in those counties. I know that, for example, the hospitals in New Orleans got their hospitals filled with cases from surrounding counties because the hospitals are of higher quality in New Orleans than in places like St. Bernard or Plaquemines Parish.

Yes, the places that have been hit worst by Delta are generally smaller, less vaccinated counties. The big counties tended to get hit much harder in the waves in 2020.

 

I'm not anti mask but if I see one more d-bag wearing one on his or her chin or with nose sticking out I'm almost wondering if the whole endeavor is borderline pointless.

 

I agree, especially true for Shands/NFRMC and surrounding counties.

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I agree except for the d-bag label. People are sick of wearing masks and want to know what they can get away with.

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Well viruses spread in different areas at different times. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that for the year, a lot more people will have died of covid in Florida than in New York. During this current 'peak' in NY, about 40 people per day are dying of covid. During Florida's peak a couple of months ago, nearly 400 people were dying per day.

 

To what extent do you assign accountability for those individuals that made the choice to forego the vaccine and accept their risks?

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again for those touting how great new york is doing. on august 27 florida had it's highest daily case number 27,743. yesterday was 1,605 almost a 95% drop.new york, on august 27 had 6,449 cases, did not report yesterday, but on november 22 had 7,214 cases, a 10% increase from august, so yeah, all the vaccinated mask-wearing business shutdowns are working well there, guess florida is just lucky, right?

 

So how did Florida get to 27,743? It should be noted that the 2 days you listed in New York combined are less than half as much as the one day in August that you mention in Florida.

 

well since i believe florida in august is a much higher desired vacation spot than say, new york it is within the realm of possibility that infected individuals from other states passed along their covid,most probablly did not know they were infected.cases in florida started the rapid decline after labor day when, gee, i don't know, people from other states stopped coming because school began back home for them.

 

You figure that there are a lot of tourists in places like Hardee, Santa Rosa, and Putnam Counties (which had the highest per capita case counts)?

 

there are a hell of alot of tourists in dade, broward, palm beach, orange, duval counties. you really don't believe say 10 million out of state tourists from mid june to mid september had no negative effect on the numbers?as for the 3 counties you mentioned, did you not earlier blame new york's numbers on rural upstate counties, guess only rural florida counties count, and by the way, santa rosa county is in the prime beach area in the panhandle, a tourist destination,putnam county is between gainesville and jacksonvilli/ponte viedra, again out of staters could go through there to the coast.by the way, post 30551 is where you blamed 2 new york counties for the higher than florida new case count, in case you forgot

 

And yet, those counties didn't have the same case counts as the ones that I listed. Why do you suppose that is? The tourists driving through Puntnam County passed off all of their Covid before they got to their destination?

It is fascinating that you are spinning so hard to get around the possibility that Floridians might be responsible for their own surge while seemingly being so eager to blame the government in New York for their surge. Almost like you have two completely different standards.

 

you really do not believe unknown covid positive tourists could not have spread it to people in florida, who in turn passed it along? wow, you and the easter bunny must have a good time together.

 

And they don't have tourists in New York? But sure, it was the massive caravan of tourists driving through Putnam and Hardee Counties. You got it. It couldn't be that those places, which are not heavily visited by tourists, are low in vaccinations and have done little to slow spread. Nope, that couldn't be it at all.

 

well, i believe since say, the start of the year nyc was in lockdown, that seems to me a spot where say 50% or more tourists go to in new york, so yeah, i believe many many more tourists came to florida.

 

Haha, you got it. Those out of staters all headed to go see the phosphate mines of Hardee County and stopped in to catch Palatka. And that is how those places got Covid from the New Yorkers, who got it because they elected a Democrat.

 

Crazy how different two states can be. Florida is at its lowest case level since the first uptick when covid first started spreading.

 

for the record, florida had 32.5 million tourists from july-september. nyc expects only 3.8 million for the entire year, quite a large difference i guess.