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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. g8trjax

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    This post brought to you by pfizer. :emoji_joy:

     
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  2. QGator2414

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    Almost surely going to be endemic. They need to focus on a new generation of the vaccine and learn from the disaster of a rollout they just instituted going forward. It will be an uphill battle to regain trust from people after this.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Oh I don’t think people are going to start exercising and eating better because of Covid. I also am in as good of shape as I ever have been at 41. Two years ago ran a 20:03 in the Turkey Trot for a PB. I use to hate running. Now it is an addiction. The goal this year is to break 20 and exceeding the goal is to be under 19:30.

    It is great you decided to take one of these drugs. It makes you no better or worse than anyone else regardless of their decision to take or not take one of these drugs. Thinking you are somehow better and smarter than others for that decision is what makes one a self centered d bag (whether it be for getting the shot or not getting the shot).

    Off for 8-9 miles right now…
     
  4. g8trjax

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    Yep, that most people aren't super skeptical of fauci and the cdc is mind boggling.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    Propaganda is a powerful weapon.
     
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    " Thinking you are somehow better and smarter than others for that decision is what makes one a self centered d bag (whether it be for getting the shot or not getting the shot)."
    That made me laugh out loud. With total irony, this poster has no clue at all, much less any idea of the definition of selfishness.
     
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  7. WESGATORS

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    Have we ever tried to inundate the public with messages about their body weight for the better part of almost two years straight?

    I don't have the answer to obesity, but one observation that I notice quite frequently, I never see young children running around that are overweight. Perhaps revising what constitutes successfully advancing in "P.E." could have huge long-term ramifications.

    One thing I'm certain of, the sooner you address the issue (or avoid the issue), the easier it is to manage it. But I think for any real change to exist it has to start with the expectations that we have for our children.

    I don't get this mentality. It's just a ridiculously simplistic way to look at how others process information. It's similar to the mindset that people apply to folks who are addicted to drugs (or obesity for that matter). As if it's a simple light switch that can be turned on or off and they just willingly choose to keep it off. Do you call those who became obese "self centered D-bags" because they put themselves in such a vulnerable position? I just don't see how this type of dialog is productive.

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  9. AzCatFan

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    I'd be shocked if people knew more reinfected people than those with a breakthrough. Close to 200 million Americans fully vaccinated. Under 46 million confirmed COVID cases. There is some overlap, of course, but the vaccinated population is more than 4X larger than those who had COVID. This could mean reinfection rate could be twice that of breakthrough, but in total, there would be almost double the breakthrough cases. And those bad in math would use this fact to say vaccine is less effective than natural immunity!

    I do agree with one thing propaganda is a powerful thing. Fauci, with multiple advanced degrees, who has served under several Presidents for decades, and helped write the book on a pandemic response has become vilified. Why? Because the sitting President at the time the pandemic hit threw the playbook in the trash, has admitted he did everything opposite Fauci suggested, and admitted to purposely downplaying the virus. Unfortunate too, because Trump's other expert, Dr. Birx, has started 30% to 40% of American deaths could've been avoided had Trump listened to the experts. And that includes Fauci.
     
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    Some people just like to make up numbers. The real number of infections is no where close to 46 million cases. Lets deal in reality and drop fantasy land. More closely to 150 million cases. Just more proof of NI being clearly superior to the vaccine. Rinse, repeat.

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    I guess i am just tired of the ridiculous angles some people take. Hey, if you don't want to get the vaccine, fine. But the bullshit rhetoric is unbearable. "oh, why doesn't the CDC advocate healthier lifestyle, that would solve it". It's bullshit and people know it. The same people that say Covid is like the flu act like people will make drastic changes to their lifestyle if the government just told them to. It's horseshit.

    And no, I don't call people self centered d bags for being obese, because obese people generally don't infect other people with obesity.
     
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  12. NavyGator93

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    Yeah, short run day for me too.

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    It is funny how some do not see it. Well actually it is not funny as they want to force people to do things they think is right rather than respect another’s position. :cool:
     
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    When it comes to fitness, I don't agree with this. Fitness needs to be placed on a higher priority level because as you know, it has a huge impact on one's mental well-being (in addition to their physical well-being). This can in turn help with one's disposition when it comes to learning and, of course, engaging with others. I'm not suggesting it's the CDC's burden, but by no means have we done enough as a country to impress the importance of fitness on our youth.

    No, but don't obese people represent a vulnerability that others need to watch out for? Their situation creates the need for others to modify their behavior. I'm not advocating for the term to be used at all. I just think there's more ways it could be used if you're using it. But I understand your frustration. I think folks should generally try to understand why others who don't agree with them are frustrated.

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  15. QGator2414

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    Actually it is pretty simple. The guy completely disregarded what he knew once control and power were at his hands. He was pretty spot on with his Rubenstein interview back in 2019. He is an authoritarian now. It really is unfortunate.
     
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    No you call them a d bag because they don’t agree with what you think they should do.

    As I said…the d bag is the person who does not respect another persons decision with how they decide to take care of themselves.

    We absolutely should put more focus on healthy lifestyles. At the same time we should not mandate a healthy lifestyle and respect a persons decision to live as they wish. Just like we should respect a persons decision to get the shot or not get the shot. Whether it be a new drug like these. A flu shot. You name it.

    You do not have to agree with the decision. Just like another does not have to agree with you.
     
  17. QGator2414

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    It was a solid run…feeling good about breaking 20. Not sure on the 19:30 as I run a similar pace regardless. The 10Ks I ran are about the same pace as the 5Ks (basically I only run the Turkey Trot unless the kids school has a race). Never wear a watch or electronics. I go and get in thought. So I have no clue what my pace is. But I can tell right now I am in a good spot to kill a 5K. Just hope I am feeling it Thursday morning. Would not be the day for a bad run. Which those days happen when you just can’t get going.
     
  18. NavyGator93

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    I was just poking fun and calling your 8-9 a short run, but I was certainly just joking. My aerobic workouts of choice have cycles and right now I am certainly not in my run cycle so a 9 mile would not be a short run.
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    I figured. I will average 7 a day this time of year. Summer is 5-6 a day with the heat and humidity. I wish I could get myself to do yoga but it is just too slow for me. My wife is who got me into running. But she retired with foot issues shortly after. She spins for cardio. Was doing more weights but now she is more yoga for her back and hands. Crazy how strenuous that tedious clinical work is on the body.
     
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    My wife is a huge yoga/pilates lady and is pound for pound one of the strongest people I know. She is an instructor (but just does volunteer stuff) but I am still reluctant to do it for no other reason than I don't like it. It would be so good for me and help me with all my other sports.

    She used to run with me but after she had our two boys, her hips get a little wonky after too much running.
    She is a beast on the mt bike because she is so strong and light, but she isn't a huge fan of crashing.