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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    You spend every post crapping I’m vaccines and touring experimental treatments. And please don’t call those of us who follow liars or biased. Ironic that you do it in the same post that you claim to not be anti-vaccine. I support mandatory vaccination to protect people from people who think like you. Or would listen to you.
     
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  2. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    Highest rates and most severe disease again among the unvaccinated. So once again, you are misleadingly the point of being dishonest.
     
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  3. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    Who cares? Reinfection risk requires infection to begin with. It is not a mitigation measure. Infection is not a goal
     
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  4. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    Exactly why we need mandatory vaccination. I will let someone else explain it.
     
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  5. gatordavisl

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    I'm on board w this, esp. the final paragraph, but not the bolded part. I think health experts have done everything they can to provide accurate information. News interviews, published studies, seminars/conferences, podcasts, tv and print ads, public speeches, and of course the work they do with individual patients. It's just not their job (or a realistic task) to defeat the misinformation machine that has emerged.

    As an example, Michael Osterholm is one of the leading virologists in the U.S. He hosts a weekly podcast addressing numerous aspects of the pandemic. COVID-19 Podcasts and Webinars

    If people wish to be well-informed, this is a good source. I recognize it may not be as widely distributed as other forms of media (unfortunately), but he has given countless national interviews as well.
     
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  6. l_boy

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    When different viewpoints means denying obvious facts, creating lies and putting your personal political signaling over the welfare of society as a whole, then yes, there's going to be disdain.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    Okay. Don’t bet your house on it…
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    No I just support people being able to make decisions for themselves about their healthcare. And you disagree so much that you just scream like a child…antivax antivax antivax.

    We disagree for sure. But stop saying people are antivax when they are not. By the way…there are a lot of vaccinated that support peoples right to make their own decision on whether to take the vaccine.
     
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  9. QGator2414

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    We should care. It shows how robust natural immunity is. It is baffling to watch so many deny the basic science we know.
     
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  10. WESGATORS

    WESGATORS Moderator VIP Member

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    An example is that if you look at the deaths in California compared to the deaths in FLORIDA, it looks like California has fared better. However, if you break it down by age groups, you'll find the results to be similar or even favoring FLORIDA (particularly in the under 50 demographic). I just think more nuance could have been provided. I also think that tracking of infections/re-infections could have been done better to help answer questions about the need for vaccinations for those who have recently had COVID (and possibly those who haven't recently had it). We've done a terrible job of breaking these things down at the pediatric level which has caused unnecessary panic on the part of parents and schools with respect to how they've handled the pandemic (you've read much about burnout from the public schools in some areas...was it truly necessary?). I also think that effectiveness of wearing mask for kids in schools has not properly been analyzed. It's the withholding of data that has driven me nuts. More information leads to more informed discussions and better talking points in my opinion. Less room for speculation.

    Go GATORS!
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  11. flgator2

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    He was telling the truth about them being liars and biased that's fact
     
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  12. g8trjax

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    Evidently, bill gates is now an antivaxxer but don't say that too loud, some heads may explode.
     
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  13. mutz87

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    Took me a second to find that this is total nonsense. As Lincoln once said, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
     
  14. g8trjax

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    So now words somehow have no meaning?

     
  15. citygator

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    Got my booster Monday so my mom will visit for Tday. A bit early for my age but they didn’t care. Moms been hospitalized this year and is super careful. Insert “my body not my choice” complaints here. Felt achy for about 12 hours the next day but I’m prepared to lick the handrail at the mall now.
     
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  16. gator95

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    I'll take Speculation for 1,000 please Alex...
     
  17. WESGATORS

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    In FLORIDA we're looking at a bare minimum of 20% of the population that has been infected. That's not an insignificant amount of people. We are at the lowest hospitalization rates since late Spring of 2020. It absolutely matters. We started trending upwards in early October of 2020. Now we're getting into late November and we're still trending downwards. What mandates are needed?

    Go GATORS!
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  18. VAg8r1

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  19. coleg

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    Cases are rising double digits Nationally, Fl is lagging, probably because our rates were so high recently. Don't worry, with DeSantis in charge, Fl will soon be at the top of daily cases once again.
     
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  20. g8trjax

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    why do you say that?
     
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