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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. l_boy

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    Same source that shows vaccine for kids has myocarditis danger.

    We are talking about college athletes in this example.
     
  2. gatorchamps960608

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    80% of adult Americans have had at least 1 shot.

    A recent Gallup poll showed that adults reporting they would never get the vaccine dropped from 24% to 13%.

    Covid is fading except in Deliverance country.

    The work mandates were a Godsend.
     
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  3. ncargat1

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    Interesting discussion on TWIV this morning while on my walk.

    Described a case that represents a small, but growing number of people apparently, who contracted PCR confirmed COVID last year, then was vaccinated on top of that for the "super immunity" and is now at home sick again with COVID. Very mild symptoms of a respiratory infection. Also, transmitted it to her employer before she had conducted a self-test so was still contagious for some period of time.

    This will be our new reality and people should start getting used to this idea.

    Follow up discussion was about why this woman was quarantining for 10 days (current CDC guidance). Mounting data (Singapore controlled study plus others now) show with great certainty that vaccinated people clear the viral RNA from their system two-three times faster than the unvaccinated. Doctors were advocating collecting surveillance data to adjust the quarantine down 10 to 7 or even 5 days for those vaccinated and have a negative rapid antigen test.

    Next, they discussed the 8 month follow up data for RegenCov cocktail injected subcutaneously and used as prophylaxsis. An example, my friends father is 87, would not get vaccine has COVID. His mother is 88, early dimentia and has battled multiple cancers and her doctors were afraid of what vaccine reaction could do to her (idiot...but different story). So, they treated them both with the Regeron MaBs.

    Anyway, original EUA data suggested that the half life of these antibodies was bout 22-28 days and people may need on-going injections. Well, 8 month data of thousands of patients confirmed that this cocktail was still nearly 85% effective at preventing disease at the 8 month mark. Far better data than even Regeneron had hoped for.

    Finally, discussed how in the NY area that they are trying to prepare pharmacies and "point of care" clinics to tie use of the oral anti-viral medications to a rapid-test result and not wait days for the PCR to come in. Those few days are going to make all of the difference to how effective these drugs can be. Molnupiravir will like become available in select areas in early December as the US and world gear up for the coming Holiday driven wave of infections.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    Even if USSC overturns mandate they were in place long enough to make a real difference.
     
  5. slightlyskeptic

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    Ummmmm.........

    https://deadline.com/2021/10/california-covid-positivity-increase-steepens-winter-surge-1234865155/

    Furthermore, the state’s seven-day average Covid test positivity rate has begun to increase for the first time in months. The test positivity rate is one of the most trusted measures of infection spread because, being a seven-day rolling average, it factors out jumps or slowdowns in testing that can impact raw case numbers. It also smooths out most increases or dips due to backlogs in test results.

    California’s test positivity rose over by 25% in the week-and-a-half before Newsom made that statement. It increased from a post-summer low of 1.9% last Friday to 2.5% on Thursday. That was up from 2.2% on Wednesday of this week, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
     
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  6. l_boy

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    It seems like covid has run itself out in the SE. Some the states that were the highest 6 weeks ago are among the lowest. FL and Louisiana are among the lowest in infections and hospitalizations. The change is pretty dramatic.

    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
     
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  8. gator95

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    Go back to august and I was saying this. Not a surprise.
     
  9. l_boy

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    Good for you. It was also posted in here that it would happen based on herd immunity models.

    See post 25514, 25315
     
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  10. gator95

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    I said it before than, but thanks for point it out also.
     
  11. flgator2

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    Prominent cardiologist who said he would not cry at funeral of 'selfish' unvaxxed, dies in sleep weeks after endorsing third jab (bizpacreview.com)

    A prominent cardiologist who delighted in jabbing vaccine skeptics on social media suddenly died in his sleep only two weeks after apparently endorsing the third Covid shot, a major loss to the patients he was treating as well as the local medical community.

    Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial, who served as director of the interventional cardiology program at Canada’s New Brunswick Heart Centre and who has been described as an “inspiring spirit,” passed away on November 8th, leaving behind stunned family, friends, and colleagues who were blindsided by the tragic death of the 52-year-old.

    On October 24, Lutchmedial took to Facebook to post what appeared to many to be an acknowledgment that he had received the booster, writing “Vax Shot 3: Electric Flu-Galoo,” giving the jab “two thumbs up” in a missive that has drawn attention on social media.

    I did read another article that said claimed he had heart disease but didn't make any comment about his booster shot 2 weeks prior, either way this is very sad. I wonder if the booster contributed to his death
     
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  12. flgator2

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    CDC admits it has no evidence that people with natural immunity spread COVID - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

    A spokesperson for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) has admitted that the agency does not have any examples on file of an unvaccinated American transmitting COVID-19 to another person following natural recovery.

    The revelation came in the form of a November 5 letter from Roger Andoh, Chief Operating Officer of the CDC’s Agency for Toxic Substances & Disease Registry (ATSDR), in response to a September Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by attorney Elizabeth Brehm

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. ncargat1

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    Really, the state of New York does. Her story is documented 10 posts above. Strange that the doctor related the story provides consultation to the NIH and CDC.
     
  14. mutz87

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    Notice that the CDC said this info was not collected...which would explain why they don't have that data.
     
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  15. duchen

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    We didn’t contact trace much in this country.
     
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  16. flgator2

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    Notice it said not collected....... which would explain why they didn't want the truth to get out. Don't you think that was important
     
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  17. flgator2

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    While the sheep line up for their 3rd shots for the year, and the natural immunity crowd is doing great and you try to label everybody who refuses to get the vax a dimwit... go look in the mirror
     
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  18. mutz87

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    What truth is there to "get out" if it hasn't been documented empirically to know one way or the other? As @duchen points out, as a nation, we didn't do much contact tracing--likely in part due to resistance to it and in part the overwhelming crush of cases.
     
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  19. Gatorrick22

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    I rarely believe politicians when they talk about the "vaccine" and Covid-19, unless they are doctors too.

    This is a short article that has some very interesting FACTS in it... Must read it.

    This short article: "Ron Paul: Great News: Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Is Falling Apart!"


    From the article:

    "But Biden’s own senior health officials such as CDC Director Wallensky have been telling us since August that the shot does not prevent against infection from the virus and does not prevent transmission of the virus. So it is not a “vaccine” by any definition of the term. That’s why the CDC itself in September changed its official definition of the term “vaccine” to exclude the term “immunity.” The deception is so transparent."

    "They say you must take the shot because it may prevent serious illness from the virus. But we know there are plenty of other things that may prevent serious illness from the virus. Media personality Joe Rogan was widely ridiculed for using ivermectin and other drugs and procedures to treat his bout of COVID-19. But it seems to have worked. Likewise, Green Bay Packers legendary quarterback Aaron Rodgers successfully treated his COVID with ivermectin and other procedures. Even though he now has natural immunity to the virus, he has been attacked by the mainstream media for not following Fauci’s demands. Success means nothing. Only obedience matters."





    https://cnsnews.com/commentary/ron-paul/ron-paul-great-news-bidens-vaccine-mandate-falling-apart
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    Link to support your crazy overstated 80% claim of vaccinated...

    You'd rather take an experimental drug with deadly side effects... that can kill you in several different ways... and that does that does NOT prevent you from getting Copvid-19... and that does NOT prevent you from spreading Covid-19?

    Wow... I'll just take one of the REAL CURES for it... IF I EVER GET IT.

    At least I know I won't have to worry about dying in my sleep for taking that experimental and deadly drug.

    I WILL NOT COMPLY: To taking that "vaccine" when I just take one of several different cures for this completely controllable and curable flu.
     
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