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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

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    what percentage do you think has not? as we know you could have and might now have it and never know. guess sleepy joe needs to mandate everyone in america show proof of being tested also to get the accurate numbers.
     
  2. l_boy

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    who has asserted the drop had anything to do with mask wearing? How does mask wearing fit into any of this?
     
  3. buckeyegator

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    florida is much more than dade, broward, palm beach counties, yet those get the focus for outbreaks.
     
  4. l_boy

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    Why the repetitive partisan signaling? We all know what "team" you are on.
     
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  5. buckeyegator

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    then all those telling us we need to wear masks are wrong, it does neither good or bad, who knew?
     
  6. buckeyegator

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    because they are the ones issuing the mandates and telling us what to do. when did someone not associated with the biden administration and lord fauci preach to us how we need to behave?
     
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  7. surfn1080

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    Wrong, they cannot find a single animal after looking at thousands of animals who carry anything like covid-19. It's why the idea of man-made becomes a reality.
    Normally they can find the animal that a coronavirus came from.
    https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/26/1021263/bat-covid-coronavirus-cause-origin-wuhan/

    I fully know what happens with variants. It's why I am so worried about having such a leaky vaccine. If any variant has a spike protein change, we are in huge trouble.
     
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  8. mutz87

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    Different coronvirus and one that was much less deadly and less contagious and thus did not cause the kind of worldwide disruption to life as this SARS-Cov-2 coronavirus has. The vaccines now available offer us a way out of this mess, especially now that there are some therapeutic treatments available and likely to become available soon that are looking like it can make Covid much less deadly.

    Experts seem to still believe this was not the case given the various markers, but we'll likely never know for sure. Saying that this was designed to be more infectious and deliberately leaked as if it's fact is wrong.
     
  9. l_boy

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    If you have a valid point to make it is missed because of constant partisan signaling. You may have a valid point but you throw in "Lord Fauci" and you are immediately dismissed as an anti science knuckle dragger.

    To some degree the partisan bashing of presidents is kind of par for the course but the demonization of Fauci is over the top. No, he isn't always right, and he's not above criticism, but this is somewhat new territory.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    Just because they haven't found the animal yet, does not mean it does on exist. Science can take time, especially when there are over 100 bat species in China alone. And that doesn't include sub-species. This article is a good explanation why we haven't isolated the origin yet. Add that to the fact that COVID-19 genome doesn't contain any genetic markers that a man-made virus would have, and the reason we haven't found the animal origin yet is more likely due to the fact that it's not easy to isolate the animal, and not because COVID-19 is man made.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    the County published their markers to end the mask mandate. If the county later moves the goalposts, they will be called to the matt for doing so.
     
  12. buckeyegator

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    my point is so many fear doing anything he says is wrong, like his word is gospel, people are not sheep or lemmings, we do not need lecturing over and over and over again, we have minds, wether he believes it or not.
     
  13. buckeyegator

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    get ready.
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    i have known more people than i can count who, since this started have said until fauci says it is ok i an not doing it, talk about mind control.
     
  15. l_boy

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    So you are saying that on matters of public health he should tell people to do whatever feels right?
     
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  16. surfn1080

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    Its been 21 months... they have tested tens of thousands of animals. On top of that, bats are not even in the region of Wuhan. On top of the fact that we know now without any doubt gain of function research was being done on coronaviruses in the Wuhan lab. You all put a lot of trust in a Chinese government that is not known to be trustworthy...

    There is no logical sense to this being a natural virus.
     
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  17. buckeyegator

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    no, he should not be the one and only, and for the most part he is, telling us what is right and what is wrong.believe it or not, not all people, especially the reublicans you seem to disparage, are backwoods, uneducated people who need to be spoon fed what to do.
     
  18. buckeyegator

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    but lord fauci would not help fund such a thing, would he?
     
  19. gator95

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    Oh, ok. So that's how it works. You will call them to the "matt". Quick question, did you call Biden to the "matt" for saying previously that he will not have a vaccine mandate and now is having a vaccine mandate?
     
  20. AzCatFan

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    There was gain of function happening in Wuhan. But it had nothing to do with bat viruses, nor did the research lead to COVID-19.

    The closest animal virus we found was in a bat, indigenous to a region about 1,000 miles away from Wuhan. Doesn't mean that's the origin. It could be a different bat, found in a different region, and the virus could have been brought to Wuhan by someone who visited elsewhere? Or the virus could be a lab leak from a bat bought to the lab. But a leak doesn't mean the virus is man-made. Again, the genetics doesn't support this at all.

    Again, there are 100 species of bats in China. And if an intermediary animal between bat and man was part of the chain to get to COVID-19, we may never really isolate the source.