Former Tide WR Henry Ruggs involved in fatal car accident, to be charged with DUI resulting in death

Excellent perspective Antny.

The only thing I would add for emphasis/clarification, is that at those speeds, it's not even about experience or control of the vehicle--it's 99% luck, in terms of what the terrain holds ahead of you. A pothole, a dead animal, a slick....black ice (up north), someone/thing stepping out in front of you from behind something like a car on the side of the road (e.g.--a kid, a dear, a dog, cat, possum...), and even skillfully executed evasive maneuvering could and imo, would, most likely result in complete loss of control. (my clarification then, is to contrast the % attributed to luck; imo, it's a helluva a lot more than 'maybe some luck').

That's why race tracks are preserved clear and clean for races; and it's why speed limits exist.

186 (speed you did) is nuts; I can't even imagine. I used to run various cars over 100 mph on a specific desolate highway, often hitting 120, and fastest I ever got was 136, which I maintained for like 20 secs, before backing off. All the while I knew that I was a slight bump away from death, and it had nothing to do with me controlling my vehicle, but of what the road could present (woods on either side, dear or such was perhaps the biggest threat--perhaps potholes too, but you could see them and adjust accordingly, since they're stationery). So you could say I was playing Russian roulette, but with the odds much better than 1/6 anyway. 130, let alone 156 in a residential neighborhood, is RR with like 5 bullets chambered...

Perhaps I'm coming off as hypocritical, but I reconcile the apparent hypocrisy by pointing out that I did those speeds where only I was at risk, and 2nd, if I had killed anyone, or caused permanent injury...I would not ask for leniency. I would apologize for my recklessness, and submit to justice fully (...and surely stew in painful, remorseful guilt for the rest of my life).

jmho/fwiw.

 

This just so awful even to read. Tragic on so many levels. She didn't die on impact, but rather burning alive. I feel for her family. And I don't have any sympathy for people who chose to drive drunk, especially those that have options. Multiple families, including his own, are devastated as a result of his actions.

 

Sure, make them free, and remove all warning labels too. Get some more stupid out of the gene pool. Let natural selection run its course.

Not everyone at a sporting event or concert HAS to drink. Make better decisions. Enforce laws that are already on the books more evenly and with a heavier hand. How did alcohol being illegal work out the first time? How’s the war on drugs going?

 

I can't get past the speed. Geesus. What was he thinking? Well, he wasn't obviously. What a shame.

Was the gun registered and legal? I didn't like that being reported, if it was a legal gun. He's allowed to have it in that case and it's not germane to the incident.

 

Where are you getting making alcohol illegal?

 

You want to remove it from “bars, restaurants, sporting events, etc”. Where do you want people to consume if they cannot consume in any of those places? You still want it to be legal, you just can’t consume it anywhere? Private residences? Surely nobody will have private gatherings and nobody will drive home from those events. Bring back the speakeasy!

 

I recently watched a video by Jordan Peterson and his view is that alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs in existence and that there is no logical reason for it to be legal. I believe, according to him, alcohol is involved in 25% of all homicides where at least one involved is intoxicated at the time.

Oh what the hell. Here it is in case anyone is interested.

 

Depending on the state the gun may not have to be registered.

 

That's going a bit far.

I'll respond thusly: Most of the countries in Africa and the middle east, boast the smallest percentage of alcoholism (approaching zero).

Europe, China, Australia, and the Americas, 4-8%.

Russia, like 16-18%.

I'm not interested in being anything like any country in Africa, or the Middle East.

No thanks.

(...maybe we don't need to go rusky lush, but we also don't need to go totally dry either).

 

I’d sure rather smoke a joint, which I’m fairly confident leads to a lot less violence and wife beating. Uncle Sam says I can’t do that though. Uncle Sam has no issue letting big pharma get the nation hooked on opiates though.

 

Her car burst into flames, according to reports she also survived the initial impact but getting rear ended probably burst the fuel tank which then ignited the fuel. She burned alive before anybody could pull her out. Hope the dog didn’t suffer the same way, but sounds like the woman was conscious while burning.

Still kind of crazy anybody survived at those speeds. Modern cars are safer, but not designed or tested at those impacts. That’s the type of impact F1 or NASCAR are designed for. Theory: Maybe there was some weird lifting effect since the Corvette was lower to the ground with a sort of wedge shape, so it sort of launched her RAV4 upward and forward rather than straight up obliterating like if a pickup truck rear ended her at that same speed. So the impact became survivable in terms of sheer g-force, but the fire made it not.

 

And our state governments have no problem allowing those opiates to be smuggled over the border in incredibly large and potent quantities. Why is that? It amounts to mass murder but yet our neither our national nor state governments are sounding the alarm.

 

You want everyone at venues with up to 80k people to take uber......

We have alcohol laws in place already. We have parking lots full of cars at restaurants, bars, concerts, sporting events etc, serve happy hour specials and alcoholic beverages with no accountability and you think there isn't a hypocrisy. Ok.....

Since youre into absolutes how do you plan on enforcing DUI laws that are in place. Maybe college kids, alcoholics, or just every day joes will listen to you and your wife.

Lets hear some practical answers...

 

Agree. IIRC I read he was driving home from Top Golf, which is in lots of big cities. Athletes have gotten in trouble doing things like this in plenty of other cities. Vegas isn't the cause/problem in this instance, Ruggs is.

 

It would only be a bit far if the number of crimes, mishaps, hospitalizations and other associated incidents were far less than drugs the government makes illegal- for our own good.

Hopefully I did not begin a side track that amounts to a hijack. I think it's valuable for all of us to know what kind of drinker they might be.

 

If you measure the crimes committed against volume of alcohol consumed, I'd wager thst you'd find that over 99% of alcohol consumption does NOT result in any problems at all.

Yes, its problematic for a small percentage of the population. That percentage however, should not dictate unecessary restraints to the 95ish percent who dont turn into violent morons after a couple of bumps.

 

...as to the latter part, illegal drugs account for less *mishaps* bc they're illegal, and the volume of consumptiom pails in comparison as a result.

 

I don''t know if that is true, even though it sounds reasonable. There are many deaths from alcohol, if not immediate then over time. Are we regulating less damaging drugs? I'm not proposing that alcohol be a more controlled substance because the genie is out of the bottle. At the same time, most of us aren't going to die from opiates or Covid either. The POV one takes also depends on perspective. Not to conflate separate issues too much but I remember saying to someone the level at which we are limiting freedom because of Covid seems dangerous to freedom. The person responded without hesitation that if it saves one life it's worth it. If I had asked if alcohol be made illegal then I am sure he would have said "it's not the same thing".