Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

How many times are you going to repeat this blatant lie? Again you are SIX TIMES more likely to get covid if you’re unvaxxed. Selfish AND dishonest. Absolutely shameless.

 

Most of this thread is going back and forth on intentional disinformation or debating not terribly important concepts like vaccine vs natural immunity.

 

I didnt create them. I also linked the UK gov website in which is where the data came from.

I said in my post, all causes of deaths. Is it still not odd that the vaccinated are dying from all causes at a much large rate?? These charts are not about covid.

to your 3rd point, do you have a chart that supports this?

 

Data is 100k per vaccine group, not 100k per total pop.

Also, this is all causes of deaths.

 

I don't know where your charts came from. If you go to the source data you will see what I'm talking about. There are a couple of excel tabs for age adjusted data of covid deaths. Then by age group for covid deaths. In all cases the vaccinated death rates are much less.

 

Nature of the medium

Spent the last decade pushing back against misinformation and disinformation and bad arguments. lol

 

Strawman much? CDC does not claim breakthrough is non-existent, they clearly state it's rare. You state that CDC says NI is opposite what they say.... and your hilarious explanation is "The cdc certainly is not following what they know from the data." You should contact the CDC immediately to assist them in their data interpretation. OMG

 

I enjoy take new disinformation and breaking it to pieces but just arguing with hard headed people that say the same wrong thing over and over again is tiresome.

 

No. The government is forcing that in them. They are not being freely allowed to make that decision. At all. It is evil. Especially knowing many of these people are more protected than you assuming you have not had Covid. Booster up.

So many lives could have been saved if people were healthy. Unfortunately there are consequences for decisions. And this disease attacks elderly/obese/diabetics/certain immune compromised people at a much higher rate. Forcing someone to take a new drug like this is evil.

 

The cdc does not say break through is rare. They say it is “expected”.

They say reinfection is “rare”.

The data backs this up. We have solid data from the UK on it. Believe what you want. But natural immunity is superior. It does not fit the narrative. A narrative that now has the cdc pushing to vaccinate 5-11 year olds with a new drug for a disease that is of almost no risk to that group. Booster up.

 

Coming from someone who blathered on about virtue signaling for months. What hypocrisy.

 

Keep telling yourself that.

I have a much bigger concern for my in-laws who are vaccinated than my parents who have natural immunity and are not vaccinated when it comes to covid.

 

Any parent vaccinating their young child who doesn't have underlying issues is flat out misinformed/dumb. Zero reason to do that to a perfectly healthy child. I guess they are basically in the worlds largest vaccine trial.

 

Yeah. Being healthy is virtue signaling. LOL!

If only the fauc would have not turned into the authoritarian he did. At the 23:10 mark the fauc explains the best way to avoid having to see a doctor for an infectious disease back in 2019. And yes. It is be healthy!



Now it is booster up lol…

 

We have 1,470 pages on this thread doing just that.

What is worse, being persistently wrong or arguing with those who are persistently wrong?

 

It is baffling. I sure hope the long term data is not negative. The very small potential benefit makes zero sense for these healthy kids. They are already at almost no risk. Talk about selfish…using your kid as lab rat. That said…I think the propaganda has created more ignorance than selfishness in this case. As I don’t think most are this obtuse. And propaganda is a powerful weapon.

 

You can put the "wrong" on ignore but then you have all of these straggling posts polluting the thread asserting that the wrong are wrong. It's like the Monty python argument skit.

I can't point fingers because I've done plenty of this myself until lately.

 

But there are risks. Especially boys. Myocarditis is a risk from the vaccine. And we have no idea of any long term effects of the vaccine in children. Just beyond stupid.

 

At least the parents can sue the bejeezus out of pfizer if anything bad...oh yeah, nevermind.

 

Of course he'd say that. Again, it's a truism that things would be better if people were generally healthier. But what you so stubbornly refuse to allow to penetrate your thinking is that public health officials can't rely on that truism in fighting a pandemic disease spread because it doesn't stop the spread and won't stop people from getting sick or dying from this infection.

Heck, we can't even rely on it to fight the normal existence of disease. Humans get sick. That's the nature of the beast and we have to deal with this disease as it operates in the world, not relying on quaint "if everyone were just healthy."