Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

That's an ambiguous statement. "Hoped" by who? Not by anybody who has any background in Healthcare or knowledge of vaccines. Before the vaccines came out it was generally accepted that if they had an efficacy of 50-60% that would be a win. When they came out with 90%+ efficacy that exceeded their wildest dreams.

The fact that efficacy decreases against infection again is not a surprise to anybody in those fields. Antibodies always decrease through time after vaccines and infections. However the body also introduces long term defenses, which seem to be working quite well against serious disease.

So nobody with any knowledge in the area "Hoped" the vaccine would stay 95% effective again infection forever. That's just not the way vaccines work. What's difference with covid, like the flu, is that it is fast incubating, so once antibodies diminish you will get infections. But the long term protections last.

As to passports being useless, even though efficacy vs infection wanes, it takes a while and remains to a material extent for a long time, reducing the chance of infection, and long term defenses make the duration of the disease shorter. Just because the vax isn't 100% effective against infection doesn't mean it is ineffective at preventing spread. There is lots of data to show in high vax areas infections are less.

Please stop spreading your disinformation.

 

Why are anti-maskers so nutty.

“According to the FAA, of nearly 5,000 reports of unruly behavior this year, more than 3,500 involve disputes over masks. “

 

Did you look at the suggested vaccine chart? Most boosters are given weeks to months after the initial shot. It's not uncommon, and not surprising. The mRNA isn't leaky against the wild type of COVID, for which it was developed. There are also four vaccines currently being used, and in general, they are no more leaky than the polio vaccine, which again was found to be around 85% effective. Difference is, COVID is more contagious than polio, especially the Delta variant. In addition, vaccine hesitancy was significantly less when the polio shot was given.

What's "leaky" is your information. You said the vaccination was supposed to be a silver bullet, yet the Director of WHO this past January said the exact opposite. In April, there were several stories about how we were in a race between vaccine and variant, and that unless everyone eligible got vaccinated quickly, we'd likely lose. Delta proved that to be correct. There were also several stories how the vaccine won't stop all cases, and breakthroughs will happen, but if the the vaccine cuts the severity of the disease significantly, that's a win. J&J was only supposed to stop about 70% of infections, but keep people out of the hospital. And again, that's against wild type, not Delta.

It remains a truth today. The best defense we have against the fight against COVID is the vaccine.

 

Yes....hmm, if only the people creating these vaccines would have thought about T-Cell participation in the immune response. Fortunately, it apears that they checked with the Anti-Vaxx crowd and apparently DID in fact create a vaccine that provokes a T-Cell repsonse on par with that seen in a naive person who was previously infected. Huh....go figure.

T-Cells & COVID-19: Penn Study Shows Robust T-Cell Response to Vaccine

 

Yep, you sure did.

 

The Polio vaccine was only about 80% effective after two doses, so they added third and fourth doses. Polio is practically non-existent in the US today.

 

With all the hyteria created and mandated money the guys are raking in, sure starting to seem like it was all planned in advance. No telling how many boosters will be reqiured to keep your job.

 

You have a medical crystal ball that knows the efficacy of vaccines months after they are developed without having to wait the months to do the research? Cool. Care to share it with the medical community?!?

COVID-19 is a novel virus in humans. We had no research on the effects of a vaccine until said vaccine was developed and tested. We still don't know the efficacy rates after a year because most people were vaccinated less than a year ago! One variable we can't change when it comes to science is time. It always moves forward, and always at the same rate here on Earth. And results that take time? We just have to wait.

 

Give me any set of statistics and I can twist it to fit your narrative

 

Yep, sure is a sweet deal to have 300,000,000 mandated guinea pigs.

 

I'm sure the low covid deaths are from masking...

Maybe they can get the kids bulletproof masks, that would help better than a mask.

 

If being a guinea pig gives me added protection from catching the virus in the first place, and significantly lowers the chances of me ending up in a hospital, or worse, in a morgue, call me a happy guinea pig. Plenty of studies showing just this.

And the FDA just approved the vaccine for kids 5-11 starting next week. Can't week to be able to call my youngest guinea pig too!

 

A director from who making a statement is not the same thing as the media daily with public health officials giving the perception the vaccine is the answer. There is a reason the vast majority of people thought this thing was the answer. There is a reason so many with these vaccines went out covid sick when they thought they had allergies or a cold.

These vaccines are absolutely leaky. Unlike polio. Unlike mmr. Vaccines that last a lifetime.

Delta was out before these vaccines were ever going to stop it. And these vaccines failed against it anyways.

Booster up.

Booster up...

 

Good on you. Unfortunately not every parent feels the same and their choice will be take away.

 

86% of people will believe anything you say if you quote a statistic.

 

What is the efficacy rate for the Polio vaccine after two doses? What is the efficacy rate for MMR against Mumps?

 

These vaccines main focus is not the t cell. My thought is that is going to be where the vaccines in the future land. It is clear these drugs wane. And a study of 47 people followed by the current clear hard data tells me these drugs are not producing a very strong t cell response. But that could change.

Booster up.

 

It is crazy. And now to use kids...

It will be interesting to see if some of these blue states and purple states with nuts in leadership try to mandate this for school. If people thought the mask uprising at school boards were crazy. This would be epic. Glad I live in Florida and in a County that respects a persons decision on whether they would like to take one of these drugs or not.

 

The answer to those pertinent questions weren't covered in the Gateway Pundit talking points, so there will be no factual response forthcoming. Sorry.

 

You can look it up. Two completely different diseases and two completely different vaccines.

And booster up while you are at it.