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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. ncargat1

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    I admit that for the percentage of people that seroconvert after they become infected, their immunity has great breadth relative to the immunity conferred by a vaccine. However, given there are no correlates of protection known for COVID yet, what do you mean by "7 - 15 times better than vaccine"? There is no way to define that, so I assume that you misquoted someone else, but what are you trying to say here?
     
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  2. QGator2414

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    Just stop. They understand the risk of the virus. They got it months before a vaccine was available and thankfully survived it fine like the vast majority of people.

    Live in fear if you wish. But please spare the idea that they need to be forced into taking a new drug that everyone is now taking boosters for while they provide blood for their antibodies to this day to help others (mom still has them but apparently she has another antibody that disqualifies her Covid antibodies/have no idea why?).
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

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    Dude who are you trying to convince? Lmao at you telling someone else to “just stop.”
     
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  4. gator95

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    It is the gold standard. Just a meta analysis of 12 million cases in 18 countries. No big whoop I guess. 0.2% reinfection rate. Oops. I post the biggest studies that show the data you don’t like. Post a large study and show me.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.03.21263103v1.full.pdf
     
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  5. gator95

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    See the meta analysis I posted. 0.2% reinfection rate. Yeah, I’d call that the holy grail. Care to revisit your previous statement? I’m sure you will…
     
  6. gator95

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    The KY study focuses on natural immunity versus natural immunity plus vaccination. Also a very very small study.

    Quoting daily mail for your data? Yeah, I’m not considering that whatsoever.
     
  7. gator95

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    Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
     
  8. l_boy

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    Individuals previously
    infected with SARS-CoV-2 had an 81% reduction in odds of a reinfection


    That isn't inconsistent with anything I've posted.

    Around 90% of people previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 had evidence of immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2, which was sustained for at least 6-8 months after recovery, and had a low risk of reinfection.

    That's reasonably consistent with vaccine efficacy.

    What isn't clear in a meta study like this is how complete the infection numbers are. There are lots of people who get mild infections and never report it. There are probably also mild reinfections that dont get reported. Whether that materially changes the data isn't clear. Nonetheless the numbers above are about where I'd think they would be.
     
  9. l_boy

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    The point of the KY study is vaccine can provide additional protection for those with natural immunity.

    The daily mail is quoting a study from seemingly reputable sources. I have no reason or evidence to think it has been fabricated.
     
  10. l_boy

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    My daughter got it yesterday. Only took 30 minutes but they make you wait another hour for safety. It was an appointment but she got right in. No crowd. They told her to take a test in about 3 days and she may test negative. If so that's pretty remarkable. No cost, govt funded.
     
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  11. PITBOSS

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    What’s the latest on when we can get booster?
     
  12. antny1

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    What city? Yes there is no wait time right now due to low usage of the service. Initially we were doing 300 a day now less than 100. They ask that you wait an hour for observation but most leave after 20 minutes or so at their own risk. That's typical when administered a new medicine even when I used to work at an urgent care. I don't believe thr Jacksonville library will be used much longer as a regeneron site although the service may be around for a few more weeks at a different location yet to be determined.

    Also of note once you've had regeneron I believe there is a 90 day period before you should receive a vaccine or booster.
     
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  13. l_boy

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  14. QGator2414

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    I am not trying to convince anyone when it comes to taking these drugs.

    I was responding to the ridiculous response.

    You want to take these drugs…go for it. You don’t want to take these drugs…don’t.

    Just stop with the nonsense that there is one answer.
     
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  15. gator95

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    The point I’m making is to vaccinate the whole world first before vaccinating people with natural immunity. I’ve made this point consistently. Not complicated. Natural immunity vastly better than just the vaccine like I’ve said. No debate.
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    I do not live in fear nor do I live in ignorance of the risk
     
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  17. dangolegators

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    You've said this over and over. Means absolutely nothing. Amongst people who actually know something about this stuff, there is a debate.
     
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  18. vaxcardinal

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    if you're eligible you can get it now. 2 months after J&J, 6 months after the others. Just show your vaccine card. Dont need to have proof of anything else. Basically, over 65, or underlying health conditions, or in a job that exposes you to lots of people.
     
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  19. AndyGator

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    Yeah my wife and I got our boosters last Friday. We had the J&J so it was pretty simple.
     
  20. flgator2

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    You and others will be getting it about every 6 months or sooner
     
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