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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. slightlyskeptic

    slightlyskeptic All American

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    Nope. Just stupidity.
     
  2. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Good point.
    Dr. Fauci Has This Good News for All Americans
    Dr. Anthony Fauci Talks New COVID-19 Vaccine Goals, 'Good News' about Reopening New York
    https://scroll.in/video/997671/that...-reacts-to-new-yorks-70-vaccination-milestone
    Fauci: 'Good news' from AstraZeneca vaccine study

    It's a bit early in the current downward trend. Fauci has been pretty consistent in saying that we need to get below 10k cases/day to consider the virus under control.
     
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  3. dangolegators

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    Ok, and what is the reason for Florida having 30,000 more covid deaths since June 1, 2020 than NY has had? Older population? Or is it because DeSantis has done a lousy job and is more concerned with protecting people from having to wear masks and having to get vaccinated than is with protecting people from covid itself?
     
  4. dangolegators

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    Right, all 30k of NY's deaths in the first couple of months of the pandemic are because Cuomo sent infected people back to the nursing homes. :rolleyes:
     
  5. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    You answered it. Older population. Good job!
     
  6. dangolegators

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    No, age difference doesn't come close to explaining the difference between Florida and NY in covid deaths since June 1 2020.
     
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  7. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    If everyone had strictly followed Fauci's guidance on this, we would have been through this months ago. But instead we have idiot anti-vaxxers, idiot anti-maskers and idiot governors who apparently believe their state's populations are "expendable" in the quest for herd immunity.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Too funny. People still believe this crap? Crazy. Thanks for the laugh.
     
  9. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I think you have something backwards 95.
    SARS-CoV-2 is the virus.
    COVID-19 is the disease caused by the virus.
    What Is Coronavirus?
     
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  10. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

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    prepare to be ridiculed
     
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  11. l_boy

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    John Hopkins?!!! LMAO!!! / gator95
     
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  12. ncargat1

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    Disagree. Infected seniors were going to die.

    The stupidity came when they sent infected people back to senior care facilities to infect and kill even more seniors.
     
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  13. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

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    Interesting nugget from a podcast recorded at the European Society of Clinical Virology. Top virologist in Italy mentioned that their first case of local spread was recorded on Jan 2. Within a few weeks they had thousands of similar patients with unconfirmed disease. Once wider spread testing was available around the end of Jan, that number of conifrmed cases grew and grew. The intersting part was that the samples collected on and around Jan 2, were (later) genetically typed and they found 7 unique lineages already running around Italy. That suggested to them that the virus had been in Italy for months and that the mysterious "Australian Flu" that had been raging in Europe (and the US if people recall) at the time was likely a combination of actual flu patients but also some COVID patients, well before anyone in Europe knew what COVID was. The virus was almost certainly in the United States during that time as well.
     
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  14. gator95

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  15. G8trGr8t

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    the facilities were supposed to be able to isolate the "returnees" from the rest of the population. that was the deal but they failed to keep the deal. that and the sheer amount of covid in the community led to infected workers spreading covid a lot more than returning patients. unfortunately for the early states (NY being one) the testing was not there to test the workers nor was the understanding of how airborne the virus was
     
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  16. gator95

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    More collateral damage from the covid pandemic.

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  17. AzCatFan

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  18. l_boy

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    Fully Vaccinated and Had Covid-19? No Rush for a Booster Shot, Experts Say

    Fully vaccinated and had COVID-19? No rush for a booster shot, experts say


    Last week, researchers affiliated with the ZOE Covid Study app, which is for people in the U.K. to self-report symptoms and test results, said real-world infection followed by two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech shot provided 94% protection up to six months after vaccination, compared with 80% protection from vaccination alone or 65% from only infection.

    A study published last month by CDC researchers found that unvaccinated people with previous Covid-19 infections are more than twice as likely to be reinfected compared with fully vaccinated people who had previous Covid-19 infections.

    Researchers from Rockefeller University in New York said that people who were infected with Covid-19 and later vaccinated with a messenger RNA vaccine saw 20 to 40 times greater immune response than those who weren’t vaccinated, in a study published in the journal Nature in June.
     
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  19. mutz87

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    I'd add that the McKinsey report that looked into NY's numbers, found that nursing home deaths peaked a week before homes started taking in covid patients, which suggests as you mention, the spreaders were likely nh staff, not the covid patients.
     
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  20. dangolegators

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    Fascinating.
     
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