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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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  2. l_boy

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    This is just stupid. Probably around 2.5 million old people die every year. That's about 50,000 a week, and likely over the last year most of the those were vaccinated. The fact that about 50k died within 2 weeks of one of two of the shots, or a one month window, is not shocking at all. It actually seems kind of low.
     
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  3. l_boy

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    Yeah I don't think I'd be overly concerned. The odds of side effects are still probably pretty low. I'd almost be happy she got vaxed.
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    Florida just crossed 55k total covid deaths and moved into 9th place in deaths per 100k.
     
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  5. gators81

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    Right, anti-vaxxers freak out about 45k deaths after 6.4 billion shots given while saying Covid is no big deal because it has a 1 percent death rate. I don’t know who should be more embarrassed, the “whistleblower” who leaked this info, or Rick for sharing it.
     
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  6. g8trjax

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    Well, you could apply the same logic to old people dying from or with covid. They were just going to die anyway.
     
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  7. gator95

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  8. l_boy

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    No not really the same. The number of covid deaths was far greater, and in a condensed period of time. Now would some of those have died within the same year anyway? Maybe, but that is a completely different argument.
     
  9. gator95

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    Children's ICU filling up, but not with covid patients. Keeping kids home for almost a year in some parts of the country is causing an RSV outbreak. More collateral damage.

    CHOP’s beds are overflowing, but not because of COVID-19


    "Children who were hunkered down in relatively aseptic conditions -- away from school and friends, donning masks to go out in public -- didn’t get seasonal sicknesses last year, but they also didn’t build immunity to those viruses. Now that kids have resumed more normal lives, hospitals across the country are seeing an unusually big, early surge of sickness, particularly respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)."
     
  10. l_boy

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  11. gator95

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    Here is 3 more paragraphs from the article.


    “The flu is much worse than COVID-19 for kids. I’m concerned about what we are going to see in the next few months with flu. It could be nastier than RSV. Get the flu vaccine now,” Keren said, adding that all adults and children 12 and up should also get a COVID-19 vaccine.

    The other pandemic-related surge in pediatric hospitalizations has made a bad shortage worse. Adolescents and younger children who are struggling with severe anxiety, depression, even suicidal thoughts, have few places to go for inpatient treatment. The same is true tor children with conditions such as autism that can cause behavioral problems; the losses, disruptions, and isolation of the pandemic can worsen those problems.

    “CHOP is not an inpatient psychiatric facility,” Keren said. “We can manage children and keep them safe, but we don’t have the infrastructure and are not licensed to treat them. But there is just not enough [treatment facility] capacity in the community, so they often end up staying in the hospital longer than we and the families would like.”
     
  12. l_boy

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  13. ncargat1

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    Actually, no one can prove anything. They MADE UP the number based off a fictional data analyst who "ASSUMED" that the actual data in VAERS must be wrong, so they MADE UP a factor of 4-6X high is reality, and now right wing nut jobs are quoting around the internet after this idiot stated it as fact.

    I would BEG the court to actually allow this guy into a court room (though unlikely his lawsuits will make it that far based on no actual evidence). I know lawyers who would LOVE to show the world what a liar this guy is and happily have him disbarred.
     
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  14. gatordavisl

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    Very good news.

    "experimental oral drug for COVID-19, molnupiravir, reduced by around 50% the chance of hospitalization or death for patients at risk of severe disease, according to interim clinical trial results announced on Friday.

    Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics plan to seek U.S. emergency use authorization for the pill as soon as possible, and to submit applications to regulatory agencies worldwide. Due to the positive results, the Phase 3 trial is being stopped early at the recommendation of outside monitors."

    The study enrolled patients with laboratory-confirmed mild-to-moderate COVID-19, who had symptoms for no more than five days. All patients had at least one risk factor associated with poor disease outcome, such as obesity or older age.

    Merck said viral sequencing done so far shows molnupiravir is effective against all variants"

    I'll bet it works even better for lower risk people.
    Think Tamiflu for COVID





    Merck's COVID-19 pill cuts risk of death, hospitalization by 50% in study

    Merck's COVID-19 pill cuts risk of death, hospitalization by 50% in study (msn.com)


     
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  17. l_boy

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    I guess the premise of the thread is covid preventative measures decreased RSV too and that is bad.
     
  18. l_boy

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    Damn that's worse than I thought. Even if it is made up, it still is within the range you would statistically expect.
     
  19. ncargat1

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    Brace yourselves for the MERCK conspiracy theories since they own the patents for Ivermectin as well!!
     
  20. gatorpa

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    Except Ivermectin is generic and pennies a day....
     
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