Covid-19: Treatments, Cures, and Vaccines

Meanwhile, as to our discussion of obesity, diabetes and COVID, there is this study:

Diet could affect coronavirus risk according to MGH study

For the study, Merino and his colleagues examined data on 592,571 participants of the smartphone-based COVID-19 Symptom Study. Participants lived in the U.K. and the U.S., and they were recruited from March 24, 2020 and followed until Dec. 2, 2020. At the start of the study, participants completed a questionnaire that asked about their dietary habits before the pandemic. Diet quality was assessed using a healthful Plant-Based Diet Score that emphasizes healthy plant foods such as fruits and vegetables.

During follow-up, 31,831 participants developed COVID-19. Compared with individuals in the lowest quartile of the diet score, those in the highest quartile had a 9 percent lower risk of developing COVID-19 and a 41 percent lower risk of developing severe COVID-19. “These findings were consistent across a range of sensitivity analysis accounting for other healthy behaviors, social determinants of health and community virus transmission rates,” says Merino.

The researchers also found a synergistic relationship between poor diet and increased socioeconomic deprivation with COVID-19 risk that was higher than the sum of the risk associated with each factor alone.

“Our models estimate that nearly a third of COVID-19 cases would have been prevented if one of two exposures — diet or deprivation — were not present,” says Merino.

 

Yeah. Can't stress enough how much obesity and diabetes plays into how you are effected by Covid. One of the added problems we as clinicians have with these obese diabetic patients is trying to control their blood glucose. Steroids, which are one of the main weapons against the effects of Covid, raise blood glucose a lot. Last week I had one shift with 4 Covid patients with diabetes (not uncommon). I spent all day trying to maintain healthy glucose levels using three different kinds of insulin. We cover all meals with short acting insulin and then give NPH insulin at the same time we administer steroids then give long acting insulin to try and maintain long term glucose levels. And of course since many of these people who don't get vaccines are not compliant with their medications they come into the hospital already with unsteady glucose control. I gets exhausting. I counted giving 20 insulin injections in just that one shift. And don't get me started on what you have to deal with if for some reason someone becomes hypoglycemic. Add all that to trying to maintain oxygen levels and it makes for a long day.

 

UK to roll out boosters for health care workers over the age of 50 and those terms "vulnerable to the virus" Interestingly, they are not planning to use the AstraZeneca shot, but rather 1 dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech or a 1/2 dose of the Moderna vaccine.

COVID-19 tracker: Emergent inks Providence deal worth $90M; Britain to roll out Pfizer, Moderna boosters

 

As a pharmacist, I still have to shake my head how someone thinks friggin’ Ivermectin is safe to take but not the shot. We used to fill it maybe once every 6 months now that’s all we fill. Stop being dense and get the vaccine, I’m done trying to educate people on this.

 

That’s crazy. This country has lost its damned mind

But at least if you are filling them they are prescribed by a doctor and probably dosed appropriately.

I wonder how many doctors are actively prescribing it vs. those that are like fine... fine... here’s your damn dewormer. (in a very low dose). Lol.

 

People who smoke and drink and do all kinds of things that aren’t good for your body but question what’s in the shot kill me. Every drug uses fillers to bind with the active ingredient, every single damn one, but nobody questions what’s in ivermectin? The ignorance I can’t deal with.

 

Another repurposed drug fails to provide the expected benefit in COVID 19 treatment.

RedHill Biopharma is an Israeli company that showed some positive data from a small, phase 2 trial of the ther SK2 inhibitor opaganib. It was intended to treat those with severe COVID, already suffering from pneumonia. Primary endppoint was getting patients off of supplemental oxygen by the 14 day point.

RedHill BioPharma follows familiar biotech path after COVID-19 drug fails in severe patients

 

Feds/taxpayers have paid $6 Billion treating the 'unvaccinated' for COVID the last three months! My body, my choice simply doesn't resonate for the COVID pandemic.

Unvaccinated adults cost US $6B due to COVID-19 hospitalizations in last 3 months, estimate finds

 

I think thou doth miss the point. The point is to prevent folks from getting the antibodies in the first place via a virus that may in fact kill them or make them very ill.
My sister in law is in your boat. 6-8 months in at this point. But she plans to get the shot as soon as her antibodies decline.

Why you ask? Because Covid sucked.

 

No I didn't miss the point, I just don't fully agree with it. Everybody needs to do what they feel is right for them, that's what I'm doing. Yes for some it was real bad and for others like myself it really was like a mild cold for a day

 

Are you saying that friggin’ Ivermectin isn't safe? Are you claiming that it hasn't helped those with Covid. I don't know of any vaccines or medication that doesn't have some risk associated with them. I'm not a pharmacist but I know several and some have taken the vaccine and others haven't. But all of them said if you already had Covid no reason for the vax. We never talked about Ivermectin, but I would like to get their view on that

 

All fine and dandy. But acting like the potential risk on the journey to natural immunity is less than the risk that comes from a two second shot is not really one you can claim with any factual background.

 

At this point, the unvaxxed should consider Moderna.

 

I have had 4 family members on my wife's side get it this week alone. All four are vaccinated, all 4 were prescribed Ivermectin. All are symptom free after 2 days, still quarantined, but no fever or cough.

 

Best friend developed a headache and chest tightness. Fully vaccinated. Tested positive via PCR. Went home and rested and 24 hours felt no symptoms. Took PCR test 4 more days later and was RNA free.....no Ivermectin. It happens.

That said, that also does not mean I do not believe that there is something positive about Ivermectin. Too many circumstantial data points. Just not sure what it REALLY is doing and neither does anyone else who legitimately studies drug interactions with human/animal cells.

 

She should look into it sooner. As I posted a few days ago, there is an interesting reaction in people studied who recovered from Covid and then went and received the mRNA vaccine. Their antibodies seem to evolve at a much higher rate than normal and in every one who they have studied their antibodies are now capable of neutralizing SARS-COV-2, but also SARS-COV and MERS. They are referring to it as Super Immunity.

 

I disagree with you on this, A healthy person with no pre existing conditions has no reason to take this type of partial vaccine or in my opinion a flawed shot. Your natural immune system is far better than any shot currently being offered, but acting like the vaccine is better than natural immunity is not really one you can claim to be factual .

 

Please clarify: " A healthy person with no pre existing condition has no reason to take" Then you go on and say " Your natural immune system is far better than any shot currently being offered, but acting like the vaccine is better than natural immunity is not really one you can claim to be factual." In your first statement you make no mention if that person has had covid.

 

I'm not a Dr or scientist, but I think you can find facts/studies that support just about any argument you want. The internet is great, so much information at your fingertips, but it's really too much information it seems.

My wife showed me a video the other day about coffee, and the guy went on to show several articles that showed how coffee could cause blindness, very rare, but apparently it has happened at some point to someone. The next part of the video showed how coffee actually prevents glaucoma. Needless to say, I dont know if I should sh*t or go blind. Haha

 

Did they end up in the hospital with it? Here’s my issue with the whole thing. If you are vaccinated and have mild symptoms and they want to try a low or appropriate human dose of Ivermectin in conjunction with a vaccine or other treatments to try and combat it, fine, but for these people buying it at tractor supply stores and using the medicine at an obscene or inappropriate dose when there is a vaccine that is FDA approved out there and they use the excuse that they don’t want to get it because they don’t trust what’s in it but they trust what’s in a random drug they’ve never heard of and most are taking it at too high of a dose, that’s what I have an issue with.

People just like to be difficult for the sake of being difficult so they can stick it to the government. The shot isn’t 100%, never has been, but stop taking up hospital beds that could be saved for other people when it’s completely preventable with a vaccine that’s shown to be extremely safe. You can’t sit here and ask for doctors and nurses to save your life and expect all this amazing treatment they’re offering you and depend on them when you are flat out not trusting them and sort of calling them liars when they tell you to get the vaccine. I read about that nut job woman from Illinois and her crazy nut job conspiracy theorist friends who harassed the hospital demanding ivermectin to be administered when there is no actual study showing it works long term. The hypocrisy is astounding with some people.

There is an end to this pandemic and it’s the vaccine, not Ivermectin, and if you’re one of the very few extremely small percentage of the population who can’t legitimately take vaccines then I completely understand alternative methods of treatment, but don’t sit there and tell me you’d rather take ivermectin over the jab when one has been shown to be safe and extremely effective and has dozens and dozens of studies showing as such, and the other doesn’t. This isn’t an either/or scenario. If you get Covid and you’ve been vaccinated and show mild symptoms and the doctor thinks it would be effective in an appropriate, human dose, I’m totally on board, but not taking obscene amounts of it instead of the shot and overdosing on it. That’s absurd and outlandish. Besides, it’s never usually Ivermectin straight by itself, it’s usually given in conjunction with an antibiotic, steroid treatment, among other things.