Like I said, there are multiple reasons shooting percentage could drop. It's known that shooting percentages nationally are considerably lower now than in the 1970s and 80s. Before the bulk-up era, in other words. But maybe that's because fouls are not called as closely as they were back then.
I have first hand experience with it and have played basketball my whole life. I have never once seen someone's shot get worse because they got more muscular. It didn't affect my shot one bit. We don't need scientific research on this topic to call it false. It doesn't even make sense. I can't even recall an instance when anyone's shot got worse for any reason other than mental problems or injury. It just generally doesn't happen. I have seen shots improve all the time, however.
I don't think they could ever shoot. The reason they couldn't shoot is because they had poor form and/or didn't practice enough. Has nothing to do with having big muscles.
Positions or statements of fact without research are just old wives' tales. I think this is a testable hypothesis.
Well, I suppose if you want to be technical this is a correct statement. We could also throw out a lot of other baseless hypotheses and claim stalemate because they haven't been been tested. Adding muscle mass does not make you a worse shooter, and there are many famous examples of it... Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant, and Steph Curry are just a few of those examples. It's not a thing. I have heard it before, but it is just a silly thing people say.
Murphree Hall... Totally agree. I played football and basketball in high school...and had to work out to increase my bulk, etc. Did not affect me one bit... actually helped.
They didn't mention reps. If he went from 165, 5 times....to 185, 30 times...then that's hard. Also, gaining 12 pounds of muscle mass is hard as heck. The kid put in the work.
Cyclists have one of the strongest power to weight ratios on earth. They are largely forbidden to gain upper body muscle mass to not gain weight. None of them look this picture once they retire.
They are talking max. Reps are irrelevant in that context. If he were doing 185 lbs, 30 times, then it would pretty much be impossible for that to be his max... which given the aim of the article to show strength gains achieved, why would they mention a lower weight? Also, gaining 12 lbs of weight is not hard to do in an offseason. Just eat more. A lot of times when people say so and so put on 12 lbs of muscle, it’s not like they really measure weight vs muscle. It’s just a manner of speaking.
Appleby is 10x the basketball player I ever was, and 20x more accomplished. I merely said it seems he didn’t take the weight training seriously. I said nothing about how much he worked on his game or anything else. We are just having a healthy discussion. You shouldn’t perceive this as an argument between us.
I only clicked on page two because Murph was the last responder and he has been so great in relieving a desperate, suffering fan base with great takes on our players. This bullshit argument isn't very productive.
In efforts to keep the healthy convo going. Do you factor in his overall weight regarding those 12 pounds? 12 pounds for Jitoboh and 12 pounds for Appleby are obviously different. Would it change if we looked at his increase in terms of %? Genuinely curious.
Well, it’s hard to tell if they were speaking colloquially or scientifically. As I said above when people say that a guy packed on X amount of muscle, I don’t think they really measured the muscle mass increase. If they generally look more muscular, they say it’s X lbs of muscle. If they generally look fatter, they say dude got fat in the off-season. Appleby looks generally more muscular to me, so I’d say he put on muscle, but as far as the muscle to fat ratio... it’s anyone’s guess, I suppose. With respect to Appleby and Jitoboh, yes I agree that gains and losses would be more appropriately compared by percentages as opposed to overall number due to the vast different in their sizes.
When I was 20, it was extremely hard for me to put on 12lbs, especially if I was working out. Even not working out, I could eat as much as I could get down and not hardly put on weight. Working out, even with weight gainers in addition to all the food I could get down, I’d normally lose more than I could put on. It’s not easy for everyone. I was simillar in size to TA at that age. Now I could put on 12 lbs in a single sitting and keep it on. At least it feels that way.
So that definitely would be a horse of different color. I'm not sure I understand why they would publish an "increase" number based on 30 reps though. Generally when you are trying to determine a "max" number you base it on the highest weight you can get one rep at.
12 pounds is 12 pounds. only difference is whether the weight is from water, fat, muscle, or a combination.
