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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duchen

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    Too many stories like this. Few listen. They prefer to focus on how the odds are in their favor and that they are healthy.
     
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  2. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

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    Man that is just freaking awful. I feel terrible for his family.
     
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  4. flgator2

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    New drug may be a cure for both COVID-19 and herpes - Study Finds

    ATLANTA, Ga. — Scientists have developed a drug that could be an antiviral cure for both sexually transmitted infections and the COVID-19 pandemic.

    In animal experiments, researchers discovered that a medication that mimics immune system proteins successfully treats herpes. The small synthetic molecule may also defeat the coronavirus and many other kinds of infections. The “stable peptoid” is harder to break down that the real thing.

    The team suggests that doctors could give such a treatment to airline passengers before a flight to protect them from COVID. Scientists expect clinical trials to begin within months. Vaccines alone won’t overcome the pandemic, making anti-viral therapies are just as vital.

    “In the body, antimicrobial peptides such as LL-37 help keep viruses, bacteria, fungi, cancer cells and even parasites under control,” says principal investigator Dr. Annelise Barron of Stanford University in a media release.

    Additional experiments are now underway to confirm the mouse findings. In addition, the peptoids could be effective against HSV-1 drug-resistant strains. The antimicrobial molecules could have a host of applications. Work is ongoing at Stanford to explore their impact on ear and lung infections. Dr. Barron’s team has sent peptoid samples to experts in other labs to test against a range of viruses. There have been promising results in lab dish studies against influenza, the cold virus, and hepatitis B and C.

    “In their in vitro studies, a team found that two of the peptoids were the most potent antivirals ever identified against MERS and older SARS coronaviruses,” Dr. Barron says.
     
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  5. WC53

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    Smdh rhetoric creates fear, outrage and stupid people
     
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  6. gatorchamps960608

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    Yes, this particular roll of the dice is unbearably stupid. If only the Darwinism involved didn't put others at risk.
     
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  9. duchen

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    Won’t move the needle much. Folks not getting vaccinated play the severe illness and death lottery. Human nature is such that people think bad things happen to others. These are just news stories. And some would rather wait and take the miracle cures of the moment that the CDC, Big Pharma and FDA will not let people take. Lately, it is a parasite killer.
     
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    UGA professor resigns mid-class after student refuses to wear mask

     
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  12. NavyGator93

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    Our local hospital system.

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  14. l_boy

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    What is the difference in the 3 graphs?
     
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  15. gatorchamps960608

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    But since the vaccinated number is >0, why bother getting vaccinated? = some people's argument o_O
     
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  16. l_boy

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    This is a really good article. It explains some of the misconceptions are "waning immunity" of vaccines.

    Exec summ:

    - the end game is to get covid similar to the flu. Manageable level of infection and disease. Eliminating infecting long term is not a realistic goal

    - waning level of antibodies after a vaccine is normal. The body creates other long term methods to develop immunity (memory cells/Tcells).

    - diseases like covid and flu are short term incubation such that infection is still likely before body kicks in long term immunity mechanisms in 3-5 days. Other diseases like small pox and measles have longer term incubation so you don't see infection at all after vaccination.




    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/americans-are-losing-sight-endgame/619916/

    Vaccines alone won’t prevent all infections or eliminate the coronavirus, but widespread vaccination could turn COVID-19 into something more like influenza. As a society, Americans have shown that we are willing to live with 12,000 to 60,000 deaths from influenza each year. COVID-19 is more dangerous than the flu. Approximately 630,000 Americans have died of the coronavirus to date. But if we could cut the death rate by 90 percent or more, it would be on par with what we see in a bad flu season. We don’t shut down the economy for the flu. We socialize normally during flu season.





    Shots in arms are much better at preventing disease than preventing infection. After vaccination against any virus, your immune system generates antibodies that can neutralize that virus, but those antibody levels will drop over time. If your antibody levels didn’t drop after every infection or vaccination, your blood would eventually turn into a thick sludge full of antibodies to every pathogen you have ever been exposed to. High neutralizing-antibody levels soon after vaccination are predictive of high vaccine effectiveness. But when those levels inevitably fall, you still have protection against severe disease.

    That’s because vaccination also spurs your immune system to make memory cells, which rev up antibody production if you’re later exposed to that virus again. After vaccination, though, your immune system’s memory needs three to five days to kick in. Vaccines are most effective at preventing infection with viruses that have a long incubation period, such as measles and smallpox; the immune system’s memory kicks in before the virus can fully establish itself in your body. But some invaders, such as influenza and the coronavirus, have a shorter incubation period, so vaccines are less likely to entirely block infection. In other words, the virus can still enter your nose and throat and start replicating.

    But vaccines also stimulate branches of the immune system, including T cells, that don’t prevent infection but are important in controlling disease. This results in a shorter duration of infection and possibly lower amounts of infectious virus in the body, which in turn translates into milder disease and possibly less transmission. (When doctors and scientists talk about “mild” COVID-19, they mean that the coronavirus isn’t wreaking havoc in your lungs, causing your oxygen levels to plummet, and endangering your life. You may still feel really sick, but you can recover safely in your own bed.)
     
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  17. OklahomaGator

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    Anyone was argues against vaccinations after seeing this graphic is only seeing what they want to see.
     
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  18. duchen

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    This is typical.
     
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  19. ncargat1

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    From today's TWIV podcast: The myth that children are not at risk from COVID is falling apart. It was based on a false premise and the fact that most children were sheltered from exposure last year.

    1. During the week of Aug.12-19 180,000 new reported cases in children in the United States.
    2. Hospitalization rate, which was formerly quoted well below 1% has skyrocketed to almost 2.2% of all child cases.
    3. Only 7 states have not had a death of a child.
    4. Mortality rate in children is now at about 1 per 10,000 cases. With 180,000 new cases just week suggests 18-20 of those children will die.
     
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