Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Something doesn't jive. Here are the HHS hospitalization numbers thru 8/9. Miss is at 90.86% of ICU beds being used currently and 77.5% of all patients beds being used. Which one is right? Do we know the current UMMC ICU levels?

 

So you are for something but need to be given something else in order to get it? How about just get what you supposedly favor? Why would we need to make a deal to give you something else you want to take something you are claiming you want?

 

The offer was on a message board and was based on ideologies. He wasn't submitting a bill to Congress.
I took his point as being he would personally sacrifice one pov of his for one pov of the other side.

I think that is reasonable in this forum.

 

He is claiming to be for something but needs something else to really be for it. How is that reasonable? Okay, I will take the free car you are offering me, but only if you also give me $10,000 in cash. That seems like a reasonable thing and not at all ridiculous to you?

 

It's an interesting idea, though. What if we did tie voter ID requirement to vaccinations to stimulus checks? Would a higher vaccination rate be worth it? If not, what would you swap out to make it more acceptable for the greatest amount of people?

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

He is saying he will give you a car, if you will give him one.
Edit. I see what you are saying on the literalness of his words, but I still think you missed his point.

 

I have said for years that as long as the state travels to every home and issues the state mandated ID to everyone, no matter how remote their home is, I am 100% support of voter IDs.

I am less supportive of vaccine passports, but if people are going to use them, they should also be standardized.

 

No, he is saying he is in favor of the vaccine passports. So he will do what he is in favor of if you also do something else he is in favor of. So what he is offering is that you give him a car and give him something to make him take it.

 

Why would tying vaccinations to voter ID raise the vaccination rate?

 

I edited just before your post

 

Ok. Deal. You got it!

Will you accept my vaccination card as proof of ID?

 

That was just an example, but the presumption would be based on the preference for the right for voter ID laws and the preference for those on the left for vaccination requirements. Necessarily, there will be some folks for each and some folks against each as well. But how many willing to compromise would buy into it?

But take voter ID out of it, what would you add to it to "sweeten the pot?" We've seen various give-aways involving unrelated gifts.

And sometimes legislation does merge things that aren't related. If it promotes a useful political compromise, I'd support it.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

Incorporate voter registration into signing up for an ID or a driver's license; add vaccination status to the driver's license or ID; make obtaining an ID a requirement for graduating high school or taking the GED. Make it effective immediately for those in 12th grade or lower; make it effective in 5 years for 19-35; make it effective in 10 years for 36-55; grandfather everyone else in to not need the newer forms of identification.

I'd also add to make the driving test substantially harder (and "free" to re-take).

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

You have my vote...

 

I want EVERY single person to be given the option to vote. I agree a State Issued ID should be free. It's not that hard. Just about every first world country requires an ID to vote. I also am in favor of having a national holiday to vote.

 

Nope. Wrong again. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

 

but who knew we had so many infectious disease experts on this board