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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BLING

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    Darwin Award.

    As a health worker, high likelihood she infected others with her stupidity.

    Kind of amazing a health worker could be “anti-vaxx” and be so wrong. Does her hospital not require the flu shot? Most do, so the concept should be absolutely routine. Anti-vaxx health workers are just bizarre as hell to me.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Approximately 50% of healthcare workers are not vaccinated. Client of mine says his cardiologist told him he shouldn't get the vaccine. Being in the industry, and even being a doctor, does not exclude one from being foolish
     
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  3. dangolegators

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    Approximately 50% of healthcare workers are dumbasses.
     
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  4. docspor

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    sounds like her DNA coulda used some manipulation
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    Scary isnt it.
     
  6. ncargat1

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    All other arguments aside, how stupid do you have to be to not understand that mRNA DOES NOT EQUAL rDNA??
     
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  7. ncargat1

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    Sadly, no one sees the abuses of Big Pharma, Hospital Corporations and all other corporate entities that are into "health care" solely for maximum profit quite the way healthcare workers do. No one can be nearly as cyncial towards those companies than the people working on the front lines of health care.
     
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  8. ncargat1

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  9. OklahomaGator

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    This is why I am hesitant to criticize people for not taking the vaccine until it gets full FDA approval. And for the record, my wife and I are both vaccinated.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    .00078%.

    1 in 100k is naturally occurring.
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    Guillain-Barré Syndrome | Campylobacter | CDC
    How common is GBS?
    GBS is rare, affecting only about 1 in 100,000 people. An estimated 3,000-6,000 people develop GBS each year in the United States.
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    Thanks for the info, I realize that GBS is rare, but didn't know the specifics.
     
  12. WC53

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    Some people need to read the side affects of that little blue pill they take everyday.

    Aleve can be quite bad
     
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  13. BLING

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    Nurses don’t actually have as deep a science background as others in health professions. Even at UF, which I’m sure is an excellent program, the BSN nursing program would have students take “elementary” Chemistry and Biology rather than the pre-professional ones pre-med/vet/dental/pharma students take. I can’t even imagine how useless the science background is at lesser schools and community colleges.

    Still, you’d think nurses would see enough about covid from their experiences, and since they actually can administer vaccines (esp flu vaccines) you’d think they’d consider it routine. But while they are trained to administer vaccines, based on their science education they probably couldn’t be expected to “understand” how the shot works like a doctor would. Maybe some really good nurses or those with more advanced credentials go the extra mile...

    Now a doctor on the other hand should have full knowledge, so for them to fall for (or be a purveyor of) anti-vaxx misinformation like this is more shocking.
     
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  14. ncargat1

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    No argument, but there is a bad history with associating a rushed out vaccine and Guillain-Barre Syndrome. GBS are the last 3 letter you want mentioned in the same breath as your vaccine regardless of the rate. The 1976 swine flu vaccine that was rushed out triggered a minor increase in GBS illnesses (approximately 1-2 per 100,000 above the background). However, that has come to take on epic proportion in the minds of the anti-vaxx crowd....and admittedly, GBS can be and is life threatening.

    So, you certainly do not want this warning on a vaccine that is already meeting heavy resistance.
     
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  15. ncargat1

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    Your point is well taken. It can be confusing that the mRNA vaccines are considered "recombinant" vaccines, yet they are not DNA at all and that should be clear from their names.
     
  16. slightlyskeptic

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    This is true, unfortunately. Unbelievably, the husband of the infectious disease doctor in our hospital has refused to get the vaccine. She has treated probably thousands of Covid patients and yet she can't get her own husband to get vaccinated. And I work with another hospitalist who treats Covid patients and is in a susceptible demographic yet refuses getting the vaccine. It's nuts. The proof is right in front of them every day that it's overwhelmingly unvaccinated people who are coming in to the hospital yet they still think getting the vax is worse than getting Covid. o_O
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    The seven day average for daily cases in the U.S. has doubled over the course of about three weeks.

    June 23.....11,311
    July 12..... 23,025
     
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  18. buckeyegator

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    meanwhile the 7 day death average in that time frame has fallen from 316 a day to 216 a day, just saying.
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    death is a lagging number following infections but you know that. Hopefully the advances in drugs to treat the problems continue to cut into the death rate but even if you don't die, do you want to be hospitalized and have a 15% chance of having long term problems, all to avoid a vaccine that the great orange one and many other hypocritical pub leaders were first in line to get?
     
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  20. buckeyegator

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    from worldometer, your numbers are off. it says on june 23 7 day average was 12,164, on july 12 it was 20,244. picky maybe, but it shows a 8,000 a day increase, not 12,000 a day you posted, a 33% difference, just saying