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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

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    how so, the 7 day average is the lowest since march 27,2020
     
  2. dangolegators

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    No, it was lower a couple of days ago than it is now (per WorldOmeter). And when a week's worth of Florida data gets dumped tomorrow, it will go up further.
     
  3. gator95

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  4. buckeyegator

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    you are right, a whole 132 more yesterday than 3 days ago on the 7 day average, still lower than the 2 previous days.
     
  5. gator95

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  6. AzCatFan

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    I'm posting this basic primer on viral evolution and mutation mostly for @gator95's benefit. Seems he finds basic microbiology/virology funny? Maybe, if he had a basic understanding of what is happening, he would stop finding it funy, and start understanding why this is serious. Virus mutation/variation is why we have yet to find a cure for a common cold. Why flu vaccines are only at best, 50% effective, and why we have no cure for aids. Worse yet, why aids drugs lose effectiveness over time.

    This is serious. Every time COVID-19 infects a person, the virus copies itself. Many of these copies will contain errors, known as mutations. If the mutation is beneficial to the virus, like giving the virus the ability to resist the vaccine, and/or natural immunity, then this variant will spread.
     
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  7. gator95

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    I’ll worry about it when healthy teens start dying. Let me know when that’s starts happening in the US.
     
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  8. gatordavisl

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    As I said, the 7-day avg has plateaued and then risen in recent days.

    Date.....7-day Avg
    5-30.....20,037
    5-31.....17,170
    6-1.......17,138
    6-2.......16,204
    6-3.......15,026
    6-4.......14,288
    6-5.......14,132
    6-6.......13,935
    6-7.......15,107
    6-8.......14,030
    6-9.......14,846

    It was falling precipitously from mid April to the present. June 6 was the low mark but we're nearly 1k cases up from that mark.
     
  9. buckeyegator

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    your worldometer must be different than mine. says yesterday 14014, june 7 14,315 both days 800 fewer than what you say, maybe you need to look again
     
  10. AzCatFan

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    They are not dying from the vaccine. There have been more diagnosis of myocarditis, but it's possible the higher number of cases are simply due to more monitoring, as mild cases of myocarditis often go undiagnosed.

    Cases are going back up in the UK. Same week likely happen here. The reason is variants. More cases will lead to more variants, and it's possible, that an unvaccinated teen will be the carrier for that new variant. Because while COVID-19 is unlikely to harm teens, the more people infected, the greater the risk of variants.

    This is a public health crisis. And because the world isn't getting the vaccine fast enough, there will be more outbreaks, more variants, and epidemics around the globe. Let's hote, for all our sake, no variants ever are as deadly to teens as the current virus is to older adults.
     
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  11. gatordavisl

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    I posted the link in the first post you replied to. It's not Worldometer. ;)
     
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  13. duchen

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    There should be a Post-Memorial day surge start to show up. Small one. But noticeable among unvaccinated. Will not know the full extent since test result reporting is down
     
  14. buckeyegator

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    if worldometer is consistant, the 7 day florida numbers will be parcelled out to each day,same with deaths and number of testsd.
     
  15. gatorpa

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    Sorry this is why many were not lining up too fast to get their kids vaccinated.

    "The new report comes as the Israeli Ministry of Health finds a "likelihood of a link" between the second dose of the Covid-19 vaccine and myocarditis, most commonly among males ages 16 to 30."

    As many of the Adults in the US are vaccinated the cases will keep dropping.
    Get the rest of the world to catch up with the US vaccination rates and the variants will burn out.

    The "cure" for kids shouldn't be worse than the illness should it?
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    But the cure isn't worse. Not a single kid under 18 has died from the vaccine. Kids have died from COVID. About 10% of all COVID-19 patients have long haul symptoms, kids included. Myocarditis percentages in vaccinated kids is much lower than 10%. We are still trying to figure out causes and treatment for long haul symptoms, and the vaccine helps about 30% to 40% of long haulers feel better. Myocarditis goes away on its own in six months almost all of the time.

    So tell me, how is the cure, or in this case, the vaccine worse than the disease? And with about 25% of the US population under 18, what are the chances of reaching herd immunity without vaccinating all kids?
     
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  17. gator95

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    Don't waste your time arguing with this person. Even when shown that the CDC is having an "emergency" meeting over the vaccine for kids, he plays it off like it's nothing showing his bias. When there is only a handful of healthy kids who have died from covid(even that is in question), there is no need for them to get vaccinated. It's why Germany has recommended only kids with medical conditions to get the vaccine.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    There have been over 20 million males age 12 - 24 vaccinated. Less than 800 cases of myocarditis in this group, about 20 needing hospitalizations, and 0 deaths. 85% have already made a full recovery .

    Please explain how these numbers are worse than COVID-19 numbers for this same demographic group? Answer? It's not. Especially when you consider the thousands of kids suffering from COVID-19 long haul symptoms.

    Of course, our resident medical, psychology, and all things COVID expert, @gator95, will laugh off pediatric COVID long haul. But I suggest he visit one if the pediatric long haul Facebook support groups and espouse his theories there. Take some screenshots and post them here. Wonder how well you will be received when you tell parents of child long haul sufferers it's all in their collective heads, and you knew more than the entire medical community?
     
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    Anti-vaxx nurse tries and fails to make a key stick to her neck during speech claiming that vaccines make people magnetic

     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    Just landed in Anchorage. Free covid shots at the airport. No waiting
     
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