Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

No. I convinced my parents too and would do the same for any at risk group.
I personally have been waiting for full approval, but if it lingers much longer I may pull the trigger.

 

How about all the fat ppl with their co-morbidities, trying to get the rest of the not particuarly threatened folk to get vaxed...AFTER forcing the same not at risk group (vast majority of society) to shut down and damn near kill the economy...

Do you accuse that group of 'free riderism'?

I mean, we sacrificed like hell for the former group--endured enormous inconveniences and lost income...

You call them 'free riders'?

...b/c I'd say the latter group paid a much higher price, than the weak folks who survived, then....O.M.G!

Got vaxed!!!!

 

Full approval would be the game changer to me.

My wife and I actually had a great discussion about this the other night. A pretty positive one in fact about how our fears were subsiding with each day.

And FTR, I apologize for making you the whipping boy of my posts, I am more speaking to the topic than a personal shot at your posts.

 

Nothing but respect--that's where I was.

Signed my parents and brother up ASAP, soon as the vax was available.

Wasn't particuarly inclined to get vaxed myself, but out of consideration for my wife, and a few others (and in order to quell the uneasyness of the hypocrissy of teeing up my parents to get it...), went ahead and got the vax.

But I categorically do not begrudge anyone their reluctance to get the vax.

It's introducing an unnatural agent into your body.

 

"Vast majority of society." 45.4% of this country report one of the large co-morbidities, not even including obesity or people in assisted living or nursing homes.

Population based estimates of comorbidities affecting risk for complications from COVID-19 in the US.

 

This is LITERALLY ALL, That I have been saying.

 

Damn free loaders!

 

Its getting an approved vaccine that has been administered to over 100M people to help control a worldwide epidemic that has probably killed in excess of 1M people and crippled economies worldwide.

 

To call it an approved vaccine is categorically incorrect. It has EUA. It has been authorized for emergency use. FDA "approval" however is still non existent.

 

Good for you.

Pat yourself on the back, treat yourself to a DQ sundae, pin a medal on your chest...have a parade for yourself!

Just dont judge others who dont view it as quite so courageous or heroic an act as you view it.

 

It's not courageous or heroic. It's really easy and safe. That's the point.

 

Well, he did apply the system to tracking the virus, and it worked as well as the system for tracking our new coach right to UCLA. I told him that the virus doesn’t charter planes, but Tilly had his spies at the Ocala airport anyway.

 

not courageous or heroic by any means, just respectful of doing the right thing for the betterment of all of us. It's called being unselfish. The risk has been proven to be exceptionally low, and the reward, both personally and communal, is very high.

 

agreed although pfizer is now 1 month into what the FDA says will be a 6 month process to gain full approval. Regardless, there are literally 100's of millions of doses administered with very few people having anything other than short lived minor problems

 

I understand the hesitancy to wait until full approval. But in this case, we're in a race between vaccine and new variants. At least @tilly, as far as he says, is doing the next responsible thing. If you are waiting to get vaccinated, then you should still do your best to socially distance, wear a mask, etc.

But how many people who aren't vaccinated are still socially distancing and wearing masks? Numbers are falling, but we are still averaging over 13,000 new cases a day over the past week. And with the India variant now in England, cases there are going back up.

 

Newsflash: "Long covid" patients are all of a sudden feeling better after getting vaccinated. At least we now know that many "long covid" issues were psychological and not physical.


‘I can feel the clouds lifting.’ Many long-haul COVID patients report improvement post-vaccination, surprising medical experts.

 

First, only about 30% to 40% of long haulers feel better after receiving the vaccine. And 10% to 15% actually feel worse. And researchers are looking into medical reasons on the effect of the vaccine on long haul patients. And none of the hypothesis includes it was all in the long hauler's head.

It’s possible that the vaccine is helping the immune system fight off residual virus lingering in their bodies and clearing these remnants away, says Iwasaki. Or the vaccine could be stopping a harmful immune response. Or it might serve to reset the immune system. At this point, researchers can only hypothesize. There is a lot to learn about how the vaccine works in long-haulers, which is why Iwasaki and her collaborators are pursuing this research.​

 

Unfortunately, despite the massive size of the "trial", there's no cheating the passage of time. The mid-to-long term effects (and benefits) of the vaccine are still being evaluated as the days tick by.

Thankfully, all appears to be going swimmingly!

 

Just heard Atul Gawande say that one of the reasons we will have a hard time reaching herd immunity is "pet reservoirs", i.e. pets carrying virus. Never heard that.